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#5991
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#5992
#5993
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Seriously though, I think if the general public knew half of what goes on in the regional airline world they would be shocked. Then again, in this day and age if it doesn't affect them they probably don't care.
#5994
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The other thing is that the pieces they have put out there can also be adjusted, look at the pensions- first they were going to be terminated and now they will be frozen, next was the early out first they said no and now my understanding is the agreement with the TWU has some type of early out in place.
Truth is, we don't know what the outcome will be, remember on Nov 2011 when AA management offered all airplanes over 50 seats to AA pilots, we know there were devils in the details, but they saw no need in outsourcing larger RJ that the flying should be done with smaller narrow bodies.
It's clear now what they really want and aside from giving Brundage back the keys to the blood-smeared labor steamroller, they hired Frank Lorenzo's lawyer to make sure we got the full message. Message received and understood.
Right now we don't know what's happening behind those closed doors but one thing is certain, if the APA says we are making progress history tells us that management has likely changed the terms, but again SCOPE will be the deciding factor. As far as Wall street, they want consolidation and less competition, they don't like the current plan that AA has brought to the table but the plan is likely to change as we get closer to contract issues being ratified. US Airways wants this merger to happens because if not they know they will be in a works of trouble.
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its more than a rumor that Skywest and Republic are not players anymore for AMR flying. You can find a few recent articles in which Skywest vaguely says someone came to them recently for flying and they could not do it for the cost that said company is getting the flying done for now, not even close. Republic flat out said it is done with AMR come March 2013. Transstates and AMR have a bad relationship, I would not expect AMR to ever lease them an airplane again.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
Deals like this for pilots usually have an inital hangover complete with gas, bloating and heartburn. Let's hope it stops there and doesn't escalate to explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.
#5996
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If I were Eagle pilots, I'd be less worried about what AMR might do in the short-term, then what Parker might do (or HAVE to do) in the long-term. It might be U management that ultimately decides the scope of Eagle's future as part of the combined carrier.
#5997
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, i guess everyone sees what they want to see, if I were in your spot I would be hoping for a USAIR merger.
#5999
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I dont want to be in your spot, since quite a few people know exactly who you are, and you flat out violate AMR policy on this website every single day. I would be less worried about what happens with USAIR and more worried about what AMR does about that.
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This isn't the first time an Eagle thug has claimed to know who I am and insinuated I'm a target and quite frankly, it has now run thin.
Secondly, please quantify your allegations regarding my "violating AMR policy".
My comments and opinions are no different then hundreds of pilots discussing issues at their carriers on this pilots forum website. My carrier happens to be in bankruptcy and seeking to gut our contract via the 1113 process, which is valid subject for discussion as is the position of my union and the actions they've taken since chapter 11 filing. Contrary to that, wingtips advocates illegal job actions by both her pilot group and veiled encouragement by ours and condones pressuring her own fellow pilots into certain conduct which are both violations of her companies ROC.
So Mr. Expert, please back up your allegations against me as to both my identity (a veiled threat in and of itself) and specifically which posts of mine are violations you speak of. These are serious allegations and the identity issue has a threatening tone, so at this point, I'm demanding you back up your assertions/intimidations with fact.
Your move now, Rick........I'm waiting. Make it good Rick, because I'm afraid you may have just opened a legal can of worms between us.
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