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#6031
No, it's actually opposite. They will need us more than we need them. It really is a different situation than in years past now, i don't know the last time you visited a flight school but there are basically no American citizens flight training anymore. Yes, they are still there but not like the past. Most commercial students are from other countries under contract from there home country airlines, get their ratings and head home. Does anyone else agree with me or am i talking out of my a$$?
#6032
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
First this is just giving what you can do, please dont pick this out and argue with me about parts of it. I realize $50,000/yr is not a great pay check for example.
Eagle and Rah are almost Apples and Oranges. AMR has many tricks they can do to make Eagle the place people want to go. They have almost the most leverage in the industry. If this shortage is really true, those Harvard folks down in Dallas will do what it takes to keep the people from small town USA getting to the hubs.
If they want it to be at Eagle because others are not playing their song in dance they can do a ton. First the can not spin off Eagle, and give it a fleet plan. Eagle pays fairly well for an RJ airline. You can make almost $50,000/yr on 2nd year pay when you include per diem. We have CX pay which is really nice. We have about 1000 people or over 40% of ACTIVE pilots going to AA in the next 5 years (projected), and almost all the current pilots have spots at AA. Our pass benefits are UNHEARD of in the regional industry. If you like to travel, they are REALLY good (AA and Eagle for non-rev travel are treated the same, and AMR does not use seniority, they follow time of checkin.)
If they offer a set fleet plan (which we have contractual wording that says for 220 planes), and word of new planes coming in, as well as people going to AA, and no spin off, this place could be a good place.
I realize it also could be awful, we could shrink, and fall apart. However if these regional airlines are FIGHTING for pilots, why not do the above?
However if this place does hire, its right there with skywest but at least you can non rev easily here. Our contract even post BK is better then many regionals.
A USAIR deal will void this post 100%.
Eagle and Rah are almost Apples and Oranges. AMR has many tricks they can do to make Eagle the place people want to go. They have almost the most leverage in the industry. If this shortage is really true, those Harvard folks down in Dallas will do what it takes to keep the people from small town USA getting to the hubs.
If they want it to be at Eagle because others are not playing their song in dance they can do a ton. First the can not spin off Eagle, and give it a fleet plan. Eagle pays fairly well for an RJ airline. You can make almost $50,000/yr on 2nd year pay when you include per diem. We have CX pay which is really nice. We have about 1000 people or over 40% of ACTIVE pilots going to AA in the next 5 years (projected), and almost all the current pilots have spots at AA. Our pass benefits are UNHEARD of in the regional industry. If you like to travel, they are REALLY good (AA and Eagle for non-rev travel are treated the same, and AMR does not use seniority, they follow time of checkin.)
If they offer a set fleet plan (which we have contractual wording that says for 220 planes), and word of new planes coming in, as well as people going to AA, and no spin off, this place could be a good place.
I realize it also could be awful, we could shrink, and fall apart. However if these regional airlines are FIGHTING for pilots, why not do the above?
However if this place does hire, its right there with skywest but at least you can non rev easily here. Our contract even post BK is better then many regionals.
A USAIR deal will void this post 100%.
#6033
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Employee Assistance Program. It's for employees who are having substance abuse, personal or emotional issues they can't handle themselves.
It seems more than obvious you are in need of their assistance due to the latter. If you wont do it for yourself, perhaps for the sake of your loved ones (if you have any) ?
I'm sure there are FAA approved treatments for OCD as well.
It seems more than obvious you are in need of their assistance due to the latter. If you wont do it for yourself, perhaps for the sake of your loved ones (if you have any) ?
I'm sure there are FAA approved treatments for OCD as well.
#6034
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
First this is just giving what you can do, please dont pick this out and argue with me about parts of it. I realize $50,000/yr is not a great pay check for example.
Eagle and Rah are almost Apples and Oranges. AMR has many tricks they can do to make Eagle the place people want to go. They have almost the most leverage in the industry. If this shortage is really true, those Harvard folks down in Dallas will do what it takes to keep the people from small town USA getting to the hubs.
If they want it to be at Eagle because others are not playing their song in dance they can do a ton. First the can not spin off Eagle, and give it a fleet plan. Eagle pays fairly well for an RJ airline. You can make almost $50,000/yr on 2nd year pay when you include per diem. We have CX pay which is really nice. We have about 1000 people or over 40% of ACTIVE pilots going to AA in the next 5 years (projected), and almost all the current pilots have spots at AA. Our pass benefits are UNHEARD of in the regional industry. If you like to travel, they are REALLY good (AA and Eagle for non-rev travel are treated the same, and AMR does not use seniority, they follow time of checkin.)
If they offer a set fleet plan (which we have contractual wording that says for 220 planes), and word of new planes coming in, as well as people going to AA, and no spin off, this place could be a good place.
I realize it also could be awful, we could shrink, and fall apart. However if these regional airlines are FIGHTING for pilots, why not do the above?
However if this place does hire, its right there with skywest but at least you can non rev easily here. Our contract even post BK is better then many regionals.
A USAIR deal will void this post 100%.
Eagle and Rah are almost Apples and Oranges. AMR has many tricks they can do to make Eagle the place people want to go. They have almost the most leverage in the industry. If this shortage is really true, those Harvard folks down in Dallas will do what it takes to keep the people from small town USA getting to the hubs.
If they want it to be at Eagle because others are not playing their song in dance they can do a ton. First the can not spin off Eagle, and give it a fleet plan. Eagle pays fairly well for an RJ airline. You can make almost $50,000/yr on 2nd year pay when you include per diem. We have CX pay which is really nice. We have about 1000 people or over 40% of ACTIVE pilots going to AA in the next 5 years (projected), and almost all the current pilots have spots at AA. Our pass benefits are UNHEARD of in the regional industry. If you like to travel, they are REALLY good (AA and Eagle for non-rev travel are treated the same, and AMR does not use seniority, they follow time of checkin.)
If they offer a set fleet plan (which we have contractual wording that says for 220 planes), and word of new planes coming in, as well as people going to AA, and no spin off, this place could be a good place.
I realize it also could be awful, we could shrink, and fall apart. However if these regional airlines are FIGHTING for pilots, why not do the above?
However if this place does hire, its right there with skywest but at least you can non rev easily here. Our contract even post BK is better then many regionals.
A USAIR deal will void this post 100%.
#6039
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
#6040
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,208
^iI agree. A USAir deal. With US managment would not be good for Eagle...
"As the evaluation process continues, I want to reiterate what Tom Horton said to us last week in a Special Jetwire and ensure that American Eagle employees understand that the discussions and evaluations that are occurring, are being done on behalf of AMR as a whole, which of course includes American Eagle. "
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