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#5981
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Joined: Mar 2009
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Sorry you see it that way, but you're entitled to your opinion. You see it as me being a "bully", but what I see is me only returning rocks thrown specifically at me by two known instigators. They want to belittle me as "JJ", "joey" or a baby kangaroo, fine...........I can play that game to the end of eternity.
Tit-for-tat.
If I took joy in bashing Eagle pilots, I'd be doing that freely. I have friends at Eagle and hope they make out better (but of course, not at my expense). My posts above were directed SPECIFICALLY at 2 rock throwers. Other then that, my comments were simply obvious observations (which you seem to agree with) and thus they must be faced. Mainline pilots will be facing them and they will essentially be the ones funding these larger RJ's with their concessions (forced or otherwise). I think it's time for all of us to put on our big boy pants and acknowledge where this profession is going and mainline pilots short-term pain will be regional pilots long-term pain.
If I want to listen to the H-5 crowd there's two other websites that are infested with them. Unfortunately, when a couple of them scurry along the baseboards to this one for a quick hit-and-run rock throw, I reserve the right to return the rocks at my discretion.
Tit-for-tat.

If I took joy in bashing Eagle pilots, I'd be doing that freely. I have friends at Eagle and hope they make out better (but of course, not at my expense). My posts above were directed SPECIFICALLY at 2 rock throwers. Other then that, my comments were simply obvious observations (which you seem to agree with) and thus they must be faced. Mainline pilots will be facing them and they will essentially be the ones funding these larger RJ's with their concessions (forced or otherwise). I think it's time for all of us to put on our big boy pants and acknowledge where this profession is going and mainline pilots short-term pain will be regional pilots long-term pain.
If I want to listen to the H-5 crowd there's two other websites that are infested with them. Unfortunately, when a couple of them scurry along the baseboards to this one for a quick hit-and-run rock throw, I reserve the right to return the rocks at my discretion.
#5982
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Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
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Did you guys cancel your monthly bonfire party up in Grapevine due to the dry weather and fire risk ?
#5983
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Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 562
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#5984
I'm not going to comment on the "leverage" aspects of the AA union/U labor agreements, but regardless of any TA with AMR management, it will NOT negate the desire to merge with U. You see, 7500+ AA pilots (out of under 8,000) believe that AMR's stand alone business plan as-is, which is basically amounting to shifting a lot of AA domestic to RJ's at the tombstones and thus increasing flying by 20% there (most of it NOT AA) and adding lie-back seats in 777 first-class in 2 years (others already have this now), isn't going to provide a future for AA employees and is still simply limping along due to exessive kicking-the-can.
A viable business plan by a management team that has demonstrated they can actually execute success is what's needed. Most pilots here would rather NOT merge with U, but most anaysts believe it necessary. It's clear to me even AMR management has no problem with a U merger, they just want to exit BK FIRST (in control), get beaucoup stock shares and THEN do the merger so THEY can ca$h-in. A FAT exit payoff and mucho stock and off they go.....happy as clams. Only one place to get that money though and that's from the employees (again).
The bottom line, is that this whole U merger business is FAR from simple negotiation sabre-rattling.
A viable business plan by a management team that has demonstrated they can actually execute success is what's needed. Most pilots here would rather NOT merge with U, but most anaysts believe it necessary. It's clear to me even AMR management has no problem with a U merger, they just want to exit BK FIRST (in control), get beaucoup stock shares and THEN do the merger so THEY can ca$h-in. A FAT exit payoff and mucho stock and off they go.....happy as clams. Only one place to get that money though and that's from the employees (again).
The bottom line, is that this whole U merger business is FAR from simple negotiation sabre-rattling.
#5986
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2011
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its more than a rumor that Skywest and Republic are not players anymore for AMR flying. You can find a few recent articles in which Skywest vaguely says someone came to them recently for flying and they could not do it for the cost that said company is getting the flying done for now, not even close. Republic flat out said it is done with AMR come March 2013. Transstates and AMR have a bad relationship, I would not expect AMR to ever lease them an airplane again.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
#5987
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2012
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its more than a rumor that Skywest and Republic are not players anymore for AMR flying. You can find a few recent articles in which Skywest vaguely says someone came to them recently for flying and they could not do it for the cost that said company is getting the flying done for now, not even close. Republic flat out said it is done with AMR come March 2013. Transstates and AMR have a bad relationship, I would not expect AMR to ever lease them an airplane again.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
Every regional has a big bone to chew right now getting all the FOs typed with ATPs, and adjusting for FT/DT. If they took on flying, and then could not complete the new flying and/or old flying, they get hit with some massive penalties. It seems to be more than a rumor that AMR might not have a real bite for bid out flying.
#5988
TPS (we are using performance like AA does, they are making us more and more like AA everyday)
Cat II (they are finishing up the last FAA requirements and trials will begin shortly, or se we are told)
Aspen (if they will farm out the flying, why not give it to SKW. Who actually uses softer number in Aspen and is able to carry more weight and different procedures)
EFB (we already have the manuals approved and should have the jepps up and running for everybody in the next month or two)
AQP (the union made a big fuzz but it's likely happening with the ATP requirements)
AMR management is saying many things but at the same time they are doing many things, the facts are they will look to drive labor cost as low as possible and we don't have much leverage, but right now we don't know what they will do with us.
*being sold to someone would likely negate all this programs as we would likely merge operations, and being spun off will have its difficulties since we are embedded with AA in so many areas.
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