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Old 04-21-2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IFly17
ORD FO 65 hours 17 days off.... that includes leadership class and a carry-in. So much for max credit in layer one.
Max credit does not have anything to do with the credit your line gets...
it only helps decide which pairing(s) you get when more than one pairing exists in the layer at your seniority level... for example if your layer 1 consists of the following 4 pairings for the same week, and assuming all 4 pairings are available it will do the following...
if pairing 1 is a 4 day worth 20 hours
and pairing 2 and 3 are 2 day back to back worth 12 hours each
and pairing 4 is a 5 day worth 23.5
max credit will chose the 2 day back to backs..

It has nothing to do with line credit, if you want max line credit you have to specify a minimum in layers 1-6... I don't recommend putting a minimum in layer 7 because you run the risk of PBS starting over and dumping your higher layer pairings in favor of higher credit lower layer pairings.
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Old 04-21-2010 | 06:51 PM
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It seems the hardest part of PBS is learning how to use it.
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Old 04-21-2010 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawn Launch
It seems the hardest part of PBS is learning how to use it.








The hardest part of PBS is having nothing but lousy pairings to choose from!!!!
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Old 04-21-2010 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Newty
I'll try and not call them skywaste anymore.
Don't change bro.

I was calling them SkyWaste way before anyone else was, from 99-'03. And those were supposedly "good years". It was a 1 year upgrade to EMB CA in FAT. And then just another 1.5 years to CRJ CA in SLC. And I was still ****ed off the entire 4 years I spent at that outfit. And I'm still ****ed off now, 7 years and 3 airlines later.

Don't change dude!
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Old 04-22-2010 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
The hardest part of PBS is having nothing but lousy pairings to choose from!!!!
Wouldn't that be part of the deal before accepting PBS??

Blaming bad pairings on PBS is like blaming the engines for a lousy avionics suite.
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Old 04-22-2010 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sky Rascal
Wouldn't that be part of the deal before accepting PBS??

Blaming bad pairings on PBS is like blaming the engines for a lousy avionics suite.







There seems to be some confusion...I didn't "accept" PBS, it was crammed down our throats! As far as bad pairings go, the ones in our domicile have been on a downhill slide for quite some time. I know they could be easily improved if our fantastic group of crew schedulers made a little effort!
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Old 04-22-2010 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly
There seems to be some confusion...I didn't "accept" PBS, it was crammed down our throats! As far as bad pairings go, the ones in our domicile have been on a downhill slide for quite some time. I know they could be easily improved if our fantastic group of crew schedulers made a little effort!
I know you've volunteered to be RSR... right?

Also the pairing quality can be mostly be blamed on United and the needs of the RJ. (last light out, first flight in) More stand ups would help, but seeing as don't believe those should be legal anyway I'm ok with it. Also I thought May pairing quality was very high comparatively to April.
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Old 04-22-2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by reelbigchair
I know you've volunteered to be RSR... right?

Also the pairing quality can be mostly be blamed on United and the needs of the RJ. (last light out, first flight in) More stand ups would help, but seeing as don't believe those should be legal anyway I'm ok with it. Also I thought May pairing quality was very high comparatively to April.






It just so happens that we already have an RSR... Based on what he told me, it doesn't seem like his input makes a whole lot of difference anyway. He gives them a heads up on what we'd like, and then they give us whatever garbage they want regardless!! The United blame game doesn't fly, our Delta side is just as bad if not worse.

Glad to "hear" your pairing quality was "very high"... It proves my point that our pairings in a more senior base than yours, can and should be improved!
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Old 04-22-2010 | 07:50 PM
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These bad pairings really have me worried. There is no greater morale killer than crappy schedules for everybody. I'm sure there is more to it than meets the eye, but it sure seems like there are several zero-effort and zero-cost changes that could be made to make the pairings more desirable.
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Old 04-22-2010 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
These bad pairings really have me worried. There is no greater morale killer than crappy schedules for everybody. I'm sure there is more to it than meets the eye, but it sure seems like there are several zero-effort and zero-cost changes that could be made to make the pairings more desirable.







Exactly!!!!
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