Just to clarify some points:

1. The Mesaba flow is 9 per class, not 9 per month.
2. The Compass flow is 20 per month, not 20 per class, up to 100 a year.
3. There are approximately 300 furlough bypass Delta pilots who have recall rights over everyone else.
4. There are about 170 +/- fNWA poolies who a determination whether they get a class date or need to reinterview hasn't been made yet.
5. Delta historically runs 30 per NH class and when in full swing, 2 classes per month.

 

2. The maximum number of Mesaba pilots Flowing Up shall be:
a. ten percent (10%) of the Total Pilot Group over a rolling
twelve (12) month period, and
b. no more than nine (9) pilots a month (three (3) pilots per
month for the period January 1, 2008 through
September 30, 2008).
c. The above-referenced maximums may be exceeded by
the consent of the parties, DAL and DAL ALPA.

 

Ah, the beauty of sources

 

Not that I am not sympathetic to your plight at Mesaba, but why would anyone there feel that they deserve to flow more than they already get?

There is nothing special about Mesaba pilots, you passed a regional airline interview and fly for a regional airline, and due to some probably shady business practices, you ended up owned by Delta. There are furloughed pilots everywhere, some a lot more accomplished than almost all Mesaba pilots.

I believe the newhire slots should go to those who interview and prove they are the best pilot for the job, rather than to those who simply negotiated for the job and never had to prove that they themselves are worthy of it.

 

It's not about entitlement, it's about trying to minimize furloughs and the flow being increased to more pilots per month could help....

 

I dont even work there and i know that you are wrong. Compass is 20 per class, 25% of their list per year. Mesaba is 9 per month.

 

I understand that, but there are so many furloughed pilots out there from so many airlines that should also have a shot at the job. You can't get rid of all the furloughs from every airline through a flow, so the only fair way is to make everyone interview and let the best pilots prosper.

The only thing that separates a Mesaba furlough from a furlough at any other airline is that the Mesaba furlough might still have a job right now. Many other pilots have been on the street for much longer and everyone is competing for the same few jobs.

 

I understand where you are coming from, we are all just trying to play the cards we were delt as best as we can.

 

dealing with flows, i don't like them at all. I believe that a company should hire who they want to hire and that everyone should have an equal chance to get the job. Lets face it, those of us that don't work for Mesaba or Compass and don't have super connections at Delta do not have a chance of getting in this round of new hires.
In this flow however, even though i don't like the idea, i wish the best for pilots at both of the groups. A lot of compass pilots are furloughs from other airlines and they knew the risk of going there and they took the chance, i hope the best for them. As far as mesaba goes, even though a lot of mesaba pilots hate us, they are a good group, a safe group, and have had to sit there with those good qualities and watch other regionals grow in their hubs for a long time so i hope that this flow will minimize the affect of any potential furlough.

 

I'm sure you are right, but then someone better tell the DALPA MEC cause what I posted came from them. However, they have been wrong before. Either way, the furlough bypass and fNWA poolies will be ahead of everyone else.

And I wouldn't expect the amount of Maeaba flows to be increased. There aren't too many guys who are happy that it exists at all.