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09-18-2010 | 12:51 PM

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Killer51883

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the Q is another mess. the company is intent on adding airplanes to the Republic certificate, returning the lynx certificate along with adding the lynx pilots to fly the airplane. once again this is in violation of our contract regarding integration of fleets and certificates prior to the SLI being complete.

09-18-2010 | 12:57 PM

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so the real question is why Lynx pilots aren't refusing to fly the Q which has no payscales.....

09-18-2010 | 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sizzlechest

so the real question is why Lynx pilots aren't refusing to fly the Q which has no payscales.....

Well, no one refused to fly the E190 so why would they refuse to fly the Q? Yeah, I know....it has 99 seats so they have to.

09-18-2010 | 01:04 PM

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Apparently your IBT local met with the Republic management and are ok with it.

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so the real question is why Lynx pilots aren't refusing to fly the Q which has no payscales.....

We have pay scales for the Q, really low but we have them.

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Well, no one refused to fly the E190 so why would they refuse to fly the Q? Yeah, I know....it has 99 seats so they have to.

Beat me to it.

09-18-2010 | 01:32 PM

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They are probably just going to give the Lynx guys their same pay scale, but now they'll all be "new hires" again since they are on the RAH certificate now.

09-18-2010 | 02:15 PM

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Apparently your IBT local met with the Republic management and are ok with it.

This is a lie. Either you are telling a lie that you made up or you are telling a lie that someone told you. Either way, you are telling a lie.

09-18-2010 | 07:08 PM

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This is a lie. Either you are telling a lie that you made up or you are telling a lie that someone told you. Either way, you are telling a lie.

Nope, if you have a dog in this fight look into it.

09-19-2010 | 12:46 AM

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Thats how it always was.

The means of getting to the goal has differed with the times, however the principle remains. At first it was mail runs, then military, then cargo, then commuters; today its the regionals.

I agree, but the line has been shifting towards bigger and bigger jets. I have no problem with a newbie building time in a turboprop that pays accordingly - you start small and get paid small, then you move up after paying your dues. But what's happening here is that folks are starting to "pay their dues" in a mainline aircraft, in exchange for "quick PIC time". When I was at the regionals, my "quick PIC time" came in the form of a 2 year upgrade to a J32 - not to a 99 seat jet flying MKE-LAX, or wherever. It paid crap, but that was a regional back then. This is most definitely not.

09-19-2010 | 03:11 AM

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Nope, if you have a dog in this fight look into it.

Somebody is lying. My source is scanned copies of letters specific to this issue, with signatures, exchanged between the union leadership and the company's lawyer that directly contradict your allegation.

What is your source?

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09-19-2010 | 05:04 AM

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Well, no one refused to fly the E190 so why would they refuse to fly the Q? Yeah, I know....it has 99 seats so they have to.

It is flying on the YX certificate. All YX flying is to be done by pilots covered by RAH CBA. Lynx pilots are not on the RAH SL yet. They cannot fly the Q if it is on the YX certificate. They should then refuse to fly the Q that they are not qualified to do. There are no provisions to have 2 separate pilot groups under in airline certificate. For Lynx to fly that is divisive and illegal and wrong. This is why they should refuse the flying as they are HELPING bust up the RAH CBA/pilot group.... they are helping MGT in a war AGAINST the pilot group by refusing to follow CBA.