Did you see how he mentioned that I would be extremely difficult to get the remaining items done? The tone was not positive and I don't see how we are remotely close to a deal. Those are the big ticket items and they are all open. Nevertheless, they get a nice break and thanksgiving off while we slave away...oh and stay positive and unified blah blah blah. Attitude reflects leadership and we have none...

 

It was a poor atempt at humor...

 

How do you know it's the "big ticket" items that are open, maybe it's just a long list of "small ticket" items?

 

Because our MEC sent us an email, finally, that told us what items have been TAd and which items are not. The big items are left and unless the company has already decided that they are going to give us what we wont it wont be happening.

 

Because we were sent a list of open items. Pay, vacation, scope , insurance & retirement, training, scheduling, dual qual, duration
Soooo.....who's ready for that Dec. 2nd contract baby!
3 days for the remaining 12 sections and 2 LOA's!!! WOO-HOO! Maybe I should start a poll asking what I should get with my Christmas signing bonus money? Think they already mailed the checks out or will they wait until the 3rd when it becomes "official"?

 

I wonder if we were sent that list and I missed it, I would like to see it.

 

Over the course of the last negotiating session, several more sections and letters of the contract achieved TA status.
•Parent Letter - The agreement for these negotiations is that all flying for Pinnacle Corp is to be done by the new collective pilot group. This means that the pilots of any future acquisitions must be included in with the rest of Pinnacle Corps pilots.
•Section 8 (Deadheading) - The language of this section had been agreed to previously with the percentage of pay for deadhead events left blank. The percentage was agreed upon last week at the PCL TA rate of 75%.
•Section 12 (Hours of Service) - The final remaining term, 11 days off per month for all pilots, was agreed to.
•Section 14 (Sick Leave) - The only open issue was inclusion of a company paid short term disability plan that begins coverage on the fourth day of an illness or injury.
•Section 16 (Workers Comp) – This section was completed with the inclusion of the short term disability plan mentioned above.
The issues remaining open as of this past Monday are fairly broad and they encompass many still open sections of the joint contract.
•Section 1 (Scope and Recognition) - Issues relating to successorship and fragmentation remain open in Section 1.
•Section 2 (Definitions) - Definitions has not been talked about much and it is typically firmed up near the end of negotiations.
•Section 3 (Compensation) - Numerous issues in Section 3 remain open including, pay rates, pay rate escalators, cancellation pay, premium pay, minimum day pay (including reserve), training pay, and instructor pay.
•Section 4 (Guarantee) - The only remaining issue is the value of a pro-rated day.
•Section 7 (Vacation) - Vacation accrual, allocation, slide, pay value, and TDY treatment are all still open.
•Section 11 (Training) - Integration of short term training events, instructor rules, and opportunities for recheck are all still open.
•Section 24 (Filling of Vacancies) - Re-qualification freezes and partial class cancellations remain open.
•Section 25 (Scheduling) – Section 25 still has many issues open. These issues include carry out trip rules, long call reserve, build up line construction, bid eligibility, miss award rules, assignment of open time, trip trading rules, rescheduling rules, instructor displacement rules, mandatory overtime rules, reserve rules, and call in honest provisions.
•Section 26 (General) - Crew room provisions and fatigue language are still open.
•Section 27 (Insurance) – Many of the major factors in our insurance plans are still open, including medical plan design/cost sharing, retiree medical, loss of license and long term disability.
•Section 28 (Retirement) - Company has matched our retirement proposal but made their proposal contingent on their Section 3 proposal which is currently not acceptable.
•Section 31 (Duration) - The length of the proposed joint contract is still undetermined and resolution of this provision is usually reserved for the final proposals.
•FOQA/ASAP LOAs - There have been no discussion on these proposals yet.
•Dual Qualification - There has been very little discussion on dual qualification yet.




3 days aint going to solve those MAJOR issues. Zero chance happening. I have zero faith in nickel management.

 

Section (3) and (25) can take a month alone.. I have very little faith in a three day stretch with a Dec 2nd deadline...

 

Thanks for posting that, looks like a lot of work to me.

 

It will take 3 days just to get the "definitions" section TA'ed...Pinnacle WILL NOT give up terms like "when possible" and "operational necessity" and "company will make it's best efforts"."

I'll steal a line from Battlestar Galactica--"All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again."

9E ALWAYS agrees to one or two things just before a stretch of negotiations end. It's the cliffhanger method of ensuring the other party comes back to the table next time you want them to, so you can maintain the illusion of progress.

I've been saying it since day 1 of this JCBA thing--the company had an entire year to formulate their plan, and their initial plan was NOT a joint contract or a single certificate. It is still not their plan TODAY. When our 3 MEC's went to them to propose the JCBA thing, 9E management saw the opportunity to buy themselves 3-12 months away from section 6 with 9e and new contract negotiations with 9L..."oh--you guys wanna get a JCBA? Sure...we'll just ditch the two certificate plan our lawyers and executives spent a year formulating and pay you all way more than we pay you now...NBD!!!!"

Yeah right...I'm just wondering how many times we'll keep agreeing to extensions before we finally get our heads out of our rear ends and realize this was just a big sham to keep us flying through the holidays without picketing or disrupting travel...