Surely you're not counting on a TA by the end of the year...

 

Yes I am, and don't call me Shirley.

Ok, I'm not really, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity.

 

After listening to the XJ conference call I learned that our MECs position on furloughs is that since we started these merger negotiations that our merger protections are in effect and there will be no furloughs at XJ for 12 months even if the merger talks fail and the Saabs continue to leave.

 

I nevered questioned whether or not the 9E reps were good guys or doing their jobs. My point is that a public forum is not the place for these guys to be. Emails, phone calls, crew room visits, ALPA forums, and mailings are all perfectly acceptable forms of communication. There is far too much liability associated with public forums. You have guys on here claiming to be 9E pilots who are discussing illegal work actions and slow downs. Just the presence of union reps makes this an even larger issue. The courts have ruled that if the company in any way thinks illegal work actions are taking place, and union reps are present on the forums where it has been discussed, then ALPA can be held liable. This example has happened before and I am sure will happen again.

Communication is good, but this forum would leave far too much liability on the shoulders of ALPA. If pilots want the truth, call your rep. If pilots want to complain and start rumors, they come here. You cannot control the rumors on this board so limit your liability but not coming on this forum.

 

I believe it's no furloughs will be able to happen as a result of the merger for 12 months. But if you were already intending on furloughs then you will still be able to have them through the normal course of your business.

 

They were not intending to furlough. There were no reduction notices published.

 

They addressed this question specifically, and they even spoke to Spangers about it, their position is no furloughs period, because of our merger protection language.

 

Back to the subject of a countdown toward a TA, latest negotiating committee update didn't sound too good. 2 out of the 3 days are now complete and NO TA'D SECTIONS. I'm gonna need some new shoes, cause I think we'll be picketing this holiday season

 

No it didn't sound too good did it. Probably because it was completely realistic that it could be done in three days. I just hope we can all stay unified. If they are close and schedule something within the next week then I will be ok but if they postpone it till after the holidays then there needs to be organized picketing in JFK ewr Iah dtw msp mem and 2 major picketing events in ATL and Ord before Christmas

 

Right...the mec will probably schedule it because we have been demanding some sort of action but it'll get cancelled because of good faith by the company.