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Old 05-25-2011 | 07:21 PM
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Anyone heard anything on what the company plans to do about the payment to raytheon coming due in June?
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Old 05-26-2011 | 05:10 AM
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i cant believe you guys are recommending this guy to a mei job instead of a 121 chance... dude take the job at lakes upgrade is under 2 years, and if you dont like it or dont want to finish out then peace out to another regional after 15 months (training contract) and you should be totally able to get a job elsewhere as many current FO's at lakes are leaving for skywest and the like... it also gives you a small preview of things to expect in terms of 121 flying and schedules (although lakes schedules are going to be a little bit more brutal with those 9 leg days and 8 hour overnights).. i might be biased because i work at lakes now but i was instructing at a mei gig where i only flew mei instruction the entire time at about 50 hours a month and made more money, just make the sacrifice and make the jump it will be worth it.

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Old 05-26-2011 | 06:04 AM
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You don't take a regional job in hopes of getting on at another regional (skywest) unless you're furloughed, that's just silly
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Old 05-26-2011 | 06:45 AM
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Anyone heard anything on what the company plans to do about the payment to raytheon coming due in June?
Last I heard, they hired an outside company to seek out investors, to come up with the money. From talking to other pilots, I don't think anyone is being told anything about the progress of the payment/ refinancing the payment. I may be wrong, however.
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Old 05-26-2011 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rickB
i cant believe you guys are recommending this guy to a mei job instead of a 121 chance... dude take the job at lakes upgrade is under 2 years, and if you dont like it or dont want to finish out then peace out to another regional after 15 months (training contract) and you should be totally able to get a job elsewhere as many current FO's at lakes are leaving for skywest and the like... it also gives you a small preview of things to expect in terms of 121 flying and schedules (although lakes schedules are going to be a little bit more brutal with those 9 leg days and 8 hour overnights).. i might be biased because i work at lakes now but i was instructing at a mei gig where i only flew mei instruction the entire time at about 50 hours a month and made more money, just make the sacrifice and make the jump it will be worth it.

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So what you are saying is either: upgrades are more than two years, or the job sucks so badly that FOs jump ship nine months from upgrade. Either way, not much of a recommendation.
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Old 05-26-2011 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
So what you are saying is either: upgrades are more than two years, or the job sucks so badly that FOs jump ship nine months from upgrade. Either way, not much of a recommendation.
Some FOs jump ship who have the seniority to upgrade immediately. Even some really good FOs, who would make great CAs. I can't say I blame them....
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Old 05-26-2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
So what you are saying is either: upgrades are more than two years, or the job sucks so badly that FOs jump ship nine months from upgrade. Either way, not much of a recommendation.
no what i said was upgrades are under two years and guys are getting classes that are only about 15 months in... and i dont recommend anyone jump from regional to regional just saying that if you want to you have that option
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Old 05-26-2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rickB
i cant believe you guys are recommending this guy to a mei job instead of a 121 chance... dude take the job at lakes upgrade is under 2 years, and if you dont like it or dont want to finish out then peace out to another regional after 15 months (training contract) and you should be totally able to get a job elsewhere as many current FO's at lakes are leaving for skywest and the like... it also gives you a small preview of things to expect in terms of 121 flying and schedules (although lakes schedules are going to be a little bit more brutal with those 9 leg days and 8 hour overnights).. i might be biased because i work at lakes now but i was instructing at a mei gig where i only flew mei instruction the entire time at about 50 hours a month and made more money, just make the sacrifice and make the jump it will be worth it.

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I agree, and I've taken the position, I'm just hoping they will be around after the summer since I have an August class date. That being said if for some reason it doesn't work out for lakes, I'd still have my current job (pay't due on June 30th) and will have only missed out on a few months of multi. I'm actually looking forward to training. I've most of the limitations and emergencie memorized and am now working on systems and regulations so I can minimize the fire hose effect in training in august.
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Old 05-31-2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rickB
i cant believe you guys are recommending this guy to a mei job instead of a 121 chance... dude take the job at lakes upgrade is under 2 years, and if you dont like it or dont want to finish out then peace out to another regional after 15 months (training contract) and you should be totally able to get a job elsewhere as many current FO's at lakes are leaving for skywest and the like... it also gives you a small preview of things to expect in terms of 121 flying and schedules (although lakes schedules are going to be a little bit more brutal with those 9 leg days and 8 hour overnights).. i might be biased because i work at lakes now but i was instructing at a mei gig where i only flew mei instruction the entire time at about 50 hours a month and made more money, just make the sacrifice and make the jump it will be worth it.

no brainer man

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[....]the guy that posted this, I have to agree with him. You are seriously debating instructing over a 121 job??? 121 turbine PIC is 121 turbine PIC...jet or turboprop. Turboprop PIC is better than turbojet SIC time. We have guys that leave here and go directly to Omni, Frontier, Allegiant, and even Southwest and Delta. The dues you pay at Lakes are harder than at Skywest, but you're paying them a lot shorter. Come to Lakes, upgrade in a year, and be set. Nobody cares how much part 91 instructing time you have...they care about total time and 121 trubine time. The balloon payment will be paid, we still have plenty of EAS cities, and we are getting a new contract. Again, a no brainer IMHO. BTW, it's not a 2 year upgrade here; most junior CA is Feb 2010. 15 months.

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Old 05-31-2011 | 02:06 PM
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[...]the guy that posted this, I have to agree with him. You are seriously debating instructing over a 121 job??? 121 turbine PIC is 121 turbine PIC...jet or turboprop. Turboprop PIC is better than turbojet SIC time. We have guys that leave here and go directly to Omni, Frontier, Allegiant, and even Southwest and Delta. The dues you pay in at Lakes are harder than at Skywest, but you're paying them a lot shorter. Come to Lakes, upgrade in a year, and be set. Nobody cares how much part 91 instructing time you have...they care about total time and 121 trubine time. The balloon payment will be paid, we still have plenty of EAS cities, and we are getting a new contract. Again, a no brainer IMHO. BTW, it's not a 2 year upgrade here; most junior CA is Feb 2010. 15 months.
I'm going for it, I'll be there in August. Thanks

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