Delta to terminate ASA Contract?
#51
In an industry which is operated by subcontractors, this simply isn't a reality. The lowest bidder has the greatest advantages. While service and reliability were once important considerations, cost has become the overriding factor in choosing who will survive.
#53
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ASA flies in ATL, our stats would all suck that bad if we were flying out of that airport. PNCL does not have the easiest airports anymore either. We used to be MEM DTW MSP and it was great - no ground stops - no holding, just an occasional hiccup. Now we have JFK and ATL as well and we also have a major operation in the northeast brewing which does not bode well for on time stuff. The way that it is set up, either ASA or PNCL could have their flying reduced at anytime. All of these 50 seat planes need to be replaced with q400's and Crj 700 and 900's yesterday. I wish delta could just order a bunch of those planes and put them at mainline and offer a flow to an interview type situation for DCI carriers. That way you get a chance to get an interview - but Delta still gets to pick who they want. Then as the regional contracts expire just dont renew them and you are left with one airline going forward. Is that my alarm clock, i knew i was dreaming...........
SAV.
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#55
United had 3 good companies working as UAX (ACA,SKW,AIRWIS) and the customers responded with high remarks. Then United figured they could get the same service using Mesa/TSA/Colgan. They were wrong. UAX went from good to bad quickly. United didnt care about the product, they only cared that someone would do it cheaper. That's what ended ACA and almost AIRWIS. In the end if you cant beat the cheap crappy companies I guess you join them, I work for Pinnacle. Simply the best.
I think letting ACA go was the best thing for UA the company. ACA was like the lazy guy that lives on unemployment and plays video games all day. It wasn't until the checks stopped coming that they realized they were in trouble. At any rate UA won the ACA war and has been financially and reliability better off without them. Too bad the employees of ACA bought into the big ideas of their management.
#57
Getting rid of ACA actually improved the UA operation. Reliability with the new carriers has been much better than when ACA was doing the flying. I am not buying that the passengers preferred a J-41 versus the RJ's now offered. I think the current mix is pretty good with the exception of ASA. Expressjet, Skywest, Republic and TSA seem to offer better service than in the past. Don't think I have ever been treated better than I have by the new UAX carriers when I have ridden on them, versus ACA and ARW. UA has fixed some of the issues at ORD, revamped the old ACA gates at IAD with good FIDS screens in the gates, at LAX we moved UAX to the 80 gates. It has been an evolving process.
I think letting ACA go was the best thing for UA the company. ACA was like the lazy guy that lives on unemployment and plays video games all day. It wasn't until the checks stopped coming that they realized they were in trouble. At any rate UA won the ACA war and has been financially and reliability better off without them. Too bad the employees of ACA bought into the big ideas of their management.
I think letting ACA go was the best thing for UA the company. ACA was like the lazy guy that lives on unemployment and plays video games all day. It wasn't until the checks stopped coming that they realized they were in trouble. At any rate UA won the ACA war and has been financially and reliability better off without them. Too bad the employees of ACA bought into the big ideas of their management.
Speaking of LAX... What about the E120's? Should UAL get rid of skywest because they fly props?
So what your saying is UAL should pick the lowest bottoms feeders in the regional industry; saying they won the war with ACA because they cost more? I know many of the people you work with would totally disagree with that.
#58
except the jumpseat war that was going on 3 years ago... where some of the UAX carriers were being told not to take mainline JSers??? Sounds like being treated pretty well IMO.
Speaking of LAX... What about the E120's? Should UAL get rid of skywest because they fly props?
So what your saying is UAL should pick the lowest bottoms feeders in the regional industry
I know many of the people you work with would totally disagree with that.
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#59
This never actually took place, it was all negotiating (threats) to ensure jumpseat priority on UAX carriers. It got resolved, and to my knowledge no jumpseats were denied over this.
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