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Old 10-27-2011 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
It continues to amaze and humor me how incredibly naive some are!

The F9 pilot group has been kicked in the teeth by the IBT and the native RAH pilots. Your windfall in the SLI is a career ending proposition for a large percentage of the Frontier pilots. The gains you made were at the expense of current F9 pilots. You are stealing my career (or attempting to - I haven't given up the fight).

You are confused why the F9 pilot group would not want to stand with you?? You just got done kicking them in the nuts! (Ohhhh, but I can clearly see that you deserve a better QOL - here, let me give you my job while I go look for another).

Give me a break!
and the oscar goes too.....
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Old 10-27-2011 | 10:09 AM
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So after 4 months since Integration, we are still ****ing on each other's shoes. Wow guy's.., seems to me we'd all have better things to do with our time. Being on the RAH side of the fence, I'm just trying to make the best life I can for me and my family. I've had ZERO control of ANY event starting with the F9 purchase to integration.

You know being a 47 yr old grandfather of five, you just wanna say to folks, can't we just get along for god's sake guys? There's nothing we can do about this, so get over it, get on with your lives.

To each his own I guess, I'll still smile and shake your hand so long as I get the same in return. Maybe someday..,
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Old 10-27-2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sizzlechest
How were you forced into IBT? Were you allowed to vote? Did you vote? It was still a democratic vote, no? it just didn't go your way.... nor would it have been mathematically possible. but that still isn't being "forced".
Maybe you missed the part where ALL of the F9 pilots voted for RPC and were still forced into the IBT. When you are the minority you are forced to bend to the will of the majority. Call it what you want, but if you're wondering why Frontier pilots aren't going to play nice, this is why.

Since having the IBT foisted upon us we have had NO attempt by the IBT leadership to welcome us or address our concerns. Exactly the opposite actually.

This is a zero sum game, or worse, so your gain is necessarily our loss - and vice versa (11/08/11 may be interesting). You should expect us to resist. The IBT walked up and hit us in the nose and is surprised that we are fighting back.
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Old 10-27-2011 | 10:57 AM
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What happens 11/08/11?
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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:03 PM
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The world ends. Please send all your money to PO Box 357666 Plainfield, IN 46168
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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
The IBT walked up and hit us in the nose and is surprised that we are fighting back.
No they didn't...you just didn't get what you want and you're fighting like a child does when they don't get their ice cream.
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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by slumav505
and the oscar goes too.....
and the oscar goes also.... ?? What does that mean?
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Old 10-27-2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
and the oscar goes also.... ?? What does that mean?
you put on an excellent performance. captivating and moving. But once its over reality comes back into play.
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Old 10-27-2011 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sizzlechest
The ripple effect is dangerous in this industry... scope erosion anyone???
As soon as any IBT represented airline has a better contract than ours, I'll be ready to listen to that line of thought.

Originally Posted by F9 Driver
. Call it what you want... .
The term is "tyranny of the majority".
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Old 10-27-2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FAULTPUSH
As soon as any IBT represented airline has a better contract than ours, I'll be ready to listen to that line of thought.



The term is "tyranny of the majority".

I thought it was "sore loser"
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