AMR to trim Eagle costs $75 million, 600 cuts
03-25-2012, 12:22 PM
#32
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I agree with unity. We need to stand together. If we are all divided and serving our own interests all the time then management wins. None of us are going to agree to completely with the other - that's life - we all have different backgrounds, different opinions, different ways of thinking and different expectations. We need to find our common ground and stand together. We can't let fear and worry divide us any longer. We can't allow management here pit us against a pilot group over there. This is not "us and them", this is "we". We are in this all together. We need to fight to put this industry back where we want it to be.
I don't want to be stuck at a regional the rest of my life. I want my career to progress. I don't want to see pay and benefits eroded every few years because the airlines claim they "aren't competitive". This cycle is ridiculous and it needs to stop. I sense every day that the anger is growing and sooner or later the cork is going to blow. I'd rather see the change before we get to that point.
I suggest we start wearing our wings upside down in a similar manner to the flag being flown upside down, for the following 3 reasons. 1) as a sign of this profession being in distress. 2) as a symbol of unity with ALL airline pilots - Regional and Mainline. 3) as a token of our willingness to turn things around and stand up for change.
I don't want to be stuck at a regional the rest of my life. I want my career to progress. I don't want to see pay and benefits eroded every few years because the airlines claim they "aren't competitive". This cycle is ridiculous and it needs to stop. I sense every day that the anger is growing and sooner or later the cork is going to blow. I'd rather see the change before we get to that point.
I suggest we start wearing our wings upside down in a similar manner to the flag being flown upside down, for the following 3 reasons. 1) as a sign of this profession being in distress. 2) as a symbol of unity with ALL airline pilots - Regional and Mainline. 3) as a token of our willingness to turn things around and stand up for change.
03-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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Once regionals start to struggle to fill classes they will lobby the FAA for MPL in conjunction with accredited aviation universities ensure a steady flow of future pilots.
This will ensure that starting pay remains low while providing a bright future low time pilots who will be mentored by seasoned regional captains in how to handle the ever increasing size of the RJ.
This will ensure that starting pay remains low while providing a bright future low time pilots who will be mentored by seasoned regional captains in how to handle the ever increasing size of the RJ.
03-25-2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
I agree with unity. We need to stand together. If we are all divided and serving our own interests all the time then management wins. None of us are going to agree to completely with the other - that's life - we all have different backgrounds, different opinions, different ways of thinking and different expectations. We need to find our common ground and stand together. We can't let fear and worry divide us any longer. We can't allow management here pit us against a pilot group over there. This is not "us and them", this is "we". We are in this all together. We need to fight to put this industry back where we want it to be.
I don't want to be stuck at a regional the rest of my life. I want my career to progress. I don't want to see pay and benefits eroded every few years because the airlines claim they "aren't competitive". This cycle is ridiculous and it needs to stop. I sense every day that the anger is growing and sooner or later the cork is going to blow. I'd rather see the change before we get to that point.
I suggest we start wearing our wings upside down in a similar manner to the flag being flown upside down, for the following 3 reasons. 1) as a sign of this profession being in distress. 2) as a symbol of unity with ALL airline pilots - Regional and Mainline. 3) as a token of our willingness to turn things around and stand up for change.
I don't want to be stuck at a regional the rest of my life. I want my career to progress. I don't want to see pay and benefits eroded every few years because the airlines claim they "aren't competitive". This cycle is ridiculous and it needs to stop. I sense every day that the anger is growing and sooner or later the cork is going to blow. I'd rather see the change before we get to that point.
I suggest we start wearing our wings upside down in a similar manner to the flag being flown upside down, for the following 3 reasons. 1) as a sign of this profession being in distress. 2) as a symbol of unity with ALL airline pilots - Regional and Mainline. 3) as a token of our willingness to turn things around and stand up for change.
Honestly, what are you all going to do? walk off the job and quit? You all love to fly too much and you would be blackballed from ever working in the industry, especially the majors, again. Face it, you guys are like drug addicts.
Flying is the drug and management is the drug pusher.
03-25-2012, 12:46 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by Pontius Pilot
I suggest we start wearing our wings upside down in a similar manner to the flag being flown upside down, for the following 3 reasons. 1) as a sign of this profession being in distress. 2) as a symbol of unity with ALL airline pilots - Regional and Mainline. 3) as a token of our willingness to turn things around and stand up for change.
Guys it is time to start showing some balls, at both AA and AE. Everyone should do this come Monday, and put something Orange on your kitbag. We need to stand super united, AE and AA. It will help get through all this big time.
03-25-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingtips
Guys it is time to start showing some balls, at both AA and AE. Everyone should do this come Monday, and put something Orange on your kitbag. We need to stand super united, AE and AA. It will help get through all this big time.
How about some 80 for 80 bag stickers for AE to show unity with AA?
03-25-2012, 12:52 PM
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Quitting isn't the answer. Standing up and saying "Hell NO" is the only way we're going to get the message across.
Its time for civil disobedience, standing up to management and making our voices heard.
Its only effective if we do it together.
We control this industry, and I think that is something we've forgotten over the past 80 years when the first pilots union was formed. Somewhere along the line we've lost our collective spines. We've allowed ourselves to be backed into the corner and we cower in fear at management and the government. We do what we're told. That needs to change.
If we all stand together there is nothing they can do to us but submit to our will.
Their only other choice is to go out of business.
That's how you bring about change. Not by quitting and walking away. Quitting is the move of a coward.
Its time for civil disobedience, standing up to management and making our voices heard.
Its only effective if we do it together.
We control this industry, and I think that is something we've forgotten over the past 80 years when the first pilots union was formed. Somewhere along the line we've lost our collective spines. We've allowed ourselves to be backed into the corner and we cower in fear at management and the government. We do what we're told. That needs to change.
If we all stand together there is nothing they can do to us but submit to our will.
Their only other choice is to go out of business.
That's how you bring about change. Not by quitting and walking away. Quitting is the move of a coward.
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