PNCL CH11 = 9L pilots are FO forever?
04-03-2012, 09:06 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by vtx531
The current "Seniority" list is a damn scam anyways. I really hope they throw it out.
Unless you think seniority means a guy 2 years your junior who took the job at a bottom-feeder prop outfit should be able to take your seat and kick you to the street while getting a pay raise in the process.
Unless you think seniority means a guy 2 years your junior who took the job at a bottom-feeder prop outfit should be able to take your seat and kick you to the street while getting a pay raise in the process.
Get over yourself.
04-03-2012, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by vtx531
The current "Seniority" list is a damn scam anyways. I really hope they throw it out.
Unless you think seniority means a guy 2 years your junior who took the job at a bottom-feeder prop outfit should be able to take your seat and kick you to the street while getting a pay raise in the process.
Unless you think seniority means a guy 2 years your junior who took the job at a bottom-feeder prop outfit should be able to take your seat and kick you to the street while getting a pay raise in the process.
04-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
No complaints from me. It's not the end of the world. I got two type ratings and almost two thousand hours of turbine PIC and now I'll be a jet FO but at least my QOL will skyrocket. I would have never imagined I would have the opportunity to hold 16 to 18 days off and it looks like I'm about to based on current PBS awards I've been looking at. I'm thankful to have a job and most importantly I'm thankful to have my health. Life's a roller coaster.
04-03-2012, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
No complaints from me. It's not the end of the world. I got two type ratings and almost two thousand hours of turbine PIC and now I'll be a jet FO but at least my QOL will skyrocket. I would have never imagined I would have the opportunity to hold 16 to 18 days off and it looks like I'm about to based on current PBS awards I've been looking at. I'm thankful to have a job and most importantly I'm thankful to have my health. Life's a roller coaster.
04-03-2012, 09:43 AM
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Saabs, you're still assuming the company will furlough jet FO's and spend $25k while in Ch11 to make you CRJ qualified. Colgan guys are dreaming if you think this will happen, Menke's comment about respecting seniority is only posturing... if he told all the 9L people they were losing their jobs in 6 months, there would be a mass exodus.
04-03-2012, 10:05 AM
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Go look at the 1113 for Eagle pilots, they will come to you guys with the same thing.
This is what you HAVE TO BE READY TO HAVE OFFERED TO YOU!!!
This is what they are going to offer you for example-
1. 70 hour a month guarantee
2. No line guarantee or pay protection
3.Reserve days mixed into any hard line under 70 hours at a value of 4 hours per day to make the line over 70 hours.
4. Canceled training/trip/IOE displacement etc all will mean your on RSV.
5. 25% loss of per diem and no increase for 5 years.
6. Captains will take a $5/hour loss and cap at 15 years.
7.Loss of 1/2 your paid vacation.
8.PBS (if you dont have it yet)
9. No using vacation days to get off work outside your vacation.
10. Decrease in 401k matching.
Get ready because it is coming.
This is from another thread, but from my experience it looks to be right on...
This is what you HAVE TO BE READY TO HAVE OFFERED TO YOU!!!
This is what they are going to offer you for example-
1. 70 hour a month guarantee
2. No line guarantee or pay protection
3.Reserve days mixed into any hard line under 70 hours at a value of 4 hours per day to make the line over 70 hours.
4. Canceled training/trip/IOE displacement etc all will mean your on RSV.
5. 25% loss of per diem and no increase for 5 years.
6. Captains will take a $5/hour loss and cap at 15 years.
7.Loss of 1/2 your paid vacation.
8.PBS (if you dont have it yet)
9. No using vacation days to get off work outside your vacation.
10. Decrease in 401k matching.
Get ready because it is coming.
This is from another thread, but from my experience it looks to be right on...
04-03-2012, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
Go look at the 1113 for Eagle pilots, they will come to you guys with the same thing.
This is what you HAVE TO BE READY TO HAVE OFFERED TO YOU!!!
This is what they are going to offer you for example-
1. 70 hour a month guarantee
2. No line guarantee or pay protection
3.Reserve days mixed into any hard line under 70 hours at a value of 4 hours per day to make the line over 70 hours.
4. Canceled training/trip/IOE displacement etc all will mean your on RSV.
5. 25% loss of per diem and no increase for 5 years.
6. Captains will take a $5/hour loss and cap at 15 years.
7.Loss of 1/2 your paid vacation.
8.PBS (if you dont have it yet)
9. No using vacation days to get off work outside your vacation.
10. Decrease in 401k matching.
Get ready because it is coming.
This is from another thread, but from my experience it looks to be right on...
This is what you HAVE TO BE READY TO HAVE OFFERED TO YOU!!!
This is what they are going to offer you for example-
1. 70 hour a month guarantee
2. No line guarantee or pay protection
3.Reserve days mixed into any hard line under 70 hours at a value of 4 hours per day to make the line over 70 hours.
4. Canceled training/trip/IOE displacement etc all will mean your on RSV.
5. 25% loss of per diem and no increase for 5 years.
6. Captains will take a $5/hour loss and cap at 15 years.
7.Loss of 1/2 your paid vacation.
8.PBS (if you dont have it yet)
9. No using vacation days to get off work outside your vacation.
10. Decrease in 401k matching.
Get ready because it is coming.
This is from another thread, but from my experience it looks to be right on...
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