PNCL CH11 = 9L pilots are FO forever?
04-02-2012, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vtx531
If you will not get furloughed and don't want to be an FO forever - QUIT!
04-02-2012, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
Those q400s are headed to Skywest. But good old Jerry Atkin didn't want us pilots to come with him how does that make you feel? Oh but you will be given preferential interviews I am sure .
04-02-2012, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
This is the new regional airline reality. As aircraft shuffle between carriers, there will be a contingent of senior pilots who will hold onto their seat, and simply have a QOL change as the fluctuations come and go (at each airline). There will be junior pilots, who either through furlough or by choice, move airline to airline, following the aircraft indefinately. They will never get a chance to accure seniority and upgrade.
04-03-2012, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog
I give the airline career one more year to improve, or show signs of improving. By improving I mean people hiring, upgrading, and not going bankrupt left and right laying people off. If not, I take my free ATP and bounce. Good luck to PNCL guys and gals.
Anyone heard anything on when they will start giving the FO's ATP's? They better get rolling if the deadline is next year.
04-03-2012, 05:25 AM
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If I remember the Bloch award right, the totals are based on a certain number of captains per airplane. The quotas will be reduced as planes are parked. And lucky for the Colgan pilots, the Pinnacle numbers were artificially low. There will always be a handful of left seat spots available for the old Colgan pilots.
This is going to stir the pot a bit, but I feel a need to point out the irony. In the months since the Bloch award was published, I have not heard many Colgan pilots complain about the quotas. Rarely did I read how it was unfair that Colgan pilots were upgrading before the more senior pilots from Pinnacle and Mesaba. We got to hear a lot about how the Q400s were the future of the airline though. Now the tables are turned and suddenly the complaining starts. Is it unfair, of course it is. But it was also unfair for the last 9 months. This industry sucks, that's all there is to it.
This is going to stir the pot a bit, but I feel a need to point out the irony. In the months since the Bloch award was published, I have not heard many Colgan pilots complain about the quotas. Rarely did I read how it was unfair that Colgan pilots were upgrading before the more senior pilots from Pinnacle and Mesaba. We got to hear a lot about how the Q400s were the future of the airline though. Now the tables are turned and suddenly the complaining starts. Is it unfair, of course it is. But it was also unfair for the last 9 months. This industry sucks, that's all there is to it.
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