G7 growing again?
10-20-2012 | 08:55 PM
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Its just not true, even UAL in the past has dropped MESA because of the product. It is why GOJET or MESA does not do 70% of UAL feed but instead Skywest airlines do. Same at DAL it is from reliable products with a few small airlines that pay less, have a less reliable product and low costs to whipsaw everyone else. Did you not look at that entire thread from the analyst lady about this? I am sorry if it hurts your feeling, however mainlines put the majority of their feed at a reliable product, even at a slightly higher cost, however they keep some bottom feeders in the mix to keep everyone in line. However its very clear why TS/MESA/CHQ/GOJET/Silver is not doing any real numbers for any airline.
10-21-2012 | 03:32 AM
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Its just not true, even UAL in the past has dropped MESA because of the product. It is why GOJET or MESA does not do 70% of UAL feed but instead Skywest airlines do. Same at DAL it is from reliable products with a few small airlines that pay less, have a less reliable product and low costs to whipsaw everyone else. Did you not look at that entire thread from the analyst lady about this? I am sorry if it hurts your feeling, however mainlines put the majority of their feed at a reliable product, even at a slightly higher cost, however they keep some bottom feeders in the mix to keep everyone in line. However its very clear why TS/MESA/CHQ/GOJET/Silver is not doing any real numbers for any airline.
Also, economies of scale make these larger regional airlines cheaper per hour than the smaller "bottom feeders", not necessarily more reliable.
Didn't you just vote for a concessionary contract at eagle? And you are going to call other airlines bottom feeders?
10-21-2012 | 02:28 PM
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ShyGuy, GoJets is exactly the same today as it was when it was formed. It is being used as a pawn against other airlines and pilot groups which is EXACTLY why it was formed in the first place. GoJets started as an alter ego and it still is an alter ego, just on a much bigger scale. I don't see Compass, which is it closest competitor in longevity, flying for United, American, or Airways. Therefore, GoJets is the exact same airline it was when it was formed and its virus like tendencies are spreading at an alarming rate.
Same crap, rinsed and repeated.
10-22-2012 | 01:08 AM
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Bigger doesn't mean better(Mesa), but it seems higher quality, more expensive regionals, are given a larger share of regional feed by mainline partners.
AMR has an RFP out for 255 large regional jets. Just a rumor, but I've heard AMR is not even considering TSA Holdings due to past American Connection issues with TSA
AMR has an RFP out for 255 large regional jets. Just a rumor, but I've heard AMR is not even considering TSA Holdings due to past American Connection issues with TSA
Just because AMR doesn't supposedly want to do with business with TSH doesn't mean they won't listen. GoJet and Compass have some of the lowest employee cost out there and you know they will use this to their advantage even if they don't pick them, also if AMR is to work a trade for the ERJs with Embraer for Ejets you want more than RAH to be able to whipsaw.
10-22-2012 | 02:57 AM
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Quality doesn't matter and being more expensive is a bad thing. The flying public couldn't care less which regional they're flying on. The tickets are bought at XXXair.com. Price is king.
10-22-2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CANAM:1280702
Quality doesn't matter and being more expensive is a bad thing. The flying public couldn't care less which regional they're flying on. The tickets are bought at XXXair.com. Price is king.
10-22-2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by What:1280694
Bigger doesn't mean better(Mesa), but it seems higher quality, more expensive regionals, are given a larger share of regional feed by mainline partners.
AMR has an RFP out for 255 large regional jets. Just a rumor, but I've heard AMR is not even considering TSA Holdings due to past American Connection issues with TSA
AMR has an RFP out for 255 large regional jets. Just a rumor, but I've heard AMR is not even considering TSA Holdings due to past American Connection issues with TSA
Just because AMR doesn't supposedly want to do with business with TSH doesn't mean they won't listen. GoJet and Compass have some of the lowest employee cost out there and you know they will use this to their advantage even if they don't pick them, also if AMR is to work a trade for the ERJs with Embraer for Ejets you want more than RAH to be able to whipsaw.
Low employee costs is a good advantage, but not everything. Economy of scale is also a significant advantage. Companies like Skywest Inc(especially with their credit rating) can get superior deals on aircraft financing better than mainline carriers themselves, let alone TS Holdings. They can get better deals with vendors for parts, office supplies etc. All together it can easily close the gap on a small carrier having low employee costs. I can start a discont store in ATL with all new employees at minimum wage but am I going to topple Wal-mart?
10-22-2012 | 10:27 AM
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You're absolutely right about the 255 number. But we can agree that there is an RFP out for a very large amount of AMR large RJ flying that will probably be divided up between a couple regionals.
Low employee costs is a good advantage, but not everything. Economy of scale is also a significant advantage. Companies like Skywest Inc(especially with their credit rating) can get superior deals on aircraft financing better than mainline carriers themselves, let alone TS Holdings. They can get better deals with vendors for parts, office supplies etc. All together it can easily close the gap on a small carrier having low employee costs. I can start a discont store in ATL with all new employees at minimum wage but am I going to topple Wal-mart?
Low employee costs is a good advantage, but not everything. Economy of scale is also a significant advantage. Companies like Skywest Inc(especially with their credit rating) can get superior deals on aircraft financing better than mainline carriers themselves, let alone TS Holdings. They can get better deals with vendors for parts, office supplies etc. All together it can easily close the gap on a small carrier having low employee costs. I can start a discont store in ATL with all new employees at minimum wage but am I going to topple Wal-mart?
10-23-2012 | 01:57 PM
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Announcement expected next week. The company has scheduled a call-in with the CEO and COO for Oct 30th.
The latest rumor is that 10 CRJs are coming from Europe to operate for AE out of LAX.
The latest rumor is that 10 CRJs are coming from Europe to operate for AE out of LAX.
10-24-2012 | 09:24 AM
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phone call scheduled for Oct. 30th. No other information given.
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