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10-20-2012, 04:34 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
No, I'm a person with a little sense that can easily see how too many people at ALPA are making too much money for the product they offer. You are free to keep playing cheerleader though.
10-20-2012, 06:26 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by PCL_128
ALPA employees have taken cut after cut over the past ten years, and the number of staff members has been reduced by a third. ALPA managers imposed contract terms on the professional employees for a two year period and eventually forced the union to cave on a deal that significantly altered their benefits package. And you want to play more hardball? Frankly, I think it's disgusting how poorly we treated our employees. Expecting even more blood out of that turnip is crazy.
10-20-2012, 08:18 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
And most of them still make too much. .............
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
Last edited by RedeyeAV8r; 10-20-2012 at 08:37 AM.
10-20-2012, 09:01 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by PCL_128
ALPA employees have taken cut after cut over the past ten years, and the number of staff members has been reduced by a third. ALPA managers imposed contract terms on the professional employees for a two year period and eventually forced the union to cave on a deal that significantly altered their benefits package. And you want to play more hardball? Frankly, I think it's disgusting how poorly we treated our employees. Expecting even more blood out of that turnip is crazy.
The irony here is that you are criticizing and cheerleading for ALPA in the same post.
I noticed the Air Tran pilots voted for this resolution even though you won't be in ALPA when this takes effect...Your MEC should have abstained from this vote....
10-20-2012, 09:04 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
How much should an Attorney Make?
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
10-20-2012, 09:07 AM
#46
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Position: CRJ200 Capt.
Posts: 822
Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
How much should an Attorney Make?
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
10-20-2012, 09:15 AM
#47
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Posts: 2,838
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Sorry, but asking a 30K a year regional pilot to pay more for ALPA is so absurd that it illustrates just how out of touch this disfunctional "union" is....
I bet if you ask your MEC Secretary Treasurer how much Dues is collected from your members compared to how much money you get from ALPA, that you are getting the better part of the bargain.
Most regional MECs (not all) are funded off the backs of the legacies and Cargo. We don't complain for that.
Maybe all the Members with Retirement plans should get refund for all the dues paid on their 401K plans the last several years.
Shouldn't we all pay the same percentage no matter how big or how small?
10-20-2012, 12:38 PM
#48
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Position: Recovering Airline Pilot
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
How much should an Attorney Make?
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
How much should an Office manager Make?
I constantly read on these forums that Good wages make a better more
productive employee.
Gee isn't that what we always say about ourselves?
Pilots are highly skilled and deserve to be paid god wages.....right?
I guess that doesn't apply to our own employees.
You want bad service, cut their wages and reduce benefits.
10-20-2012, 12:43 PM
#49
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Position: Recovering Airline Pilot
Posts: 459
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant
Airline pilots have taken cut after cut over the past ten years, and the number of pilots at the mainline level, and now even at the regional level has been reduced by a similar level within ALPA.
The irony here is that you are criticizing and cheerleading for ALPA in the same post.
I noticed the Air Tran pilots voted for this resolution even though you won't be in ALPA when this takes effect...Your MEC should have abstained from this vote....
10-21-2012, 07:26 AM
#50
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If regional pilots were smart (and had some balls), they'd form a half dozen or so pilots in a group and get grass roots movement to form a new union strictly for the interests of regional airline pilots and coordinate with equivalent groups at other regional carriers.
If you could form a new regional union for the largest 2 or 3 regionals, I'm sure most others would follow. If you really examine ALPA's effectiveness over the last decade for ALL its represented pilots, you'd see they've become virtually worthless.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
If you could form a new regional union for the largest 2 or 3 regionals, I'm sure most others would follow. If you really examine ALPA's effectiveness over the last decade for ALL its represented pilots, you'd see they've become virtually worthless.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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