For Native American and Alaskan folks it says you must maintain active tribal alliances and heritages in order to check the box so IOW, no you can't scam this option and I will easily be sniffed out in an interview if you get called in for one.

 

I wouldn't say that they aren't interested...you're painting with a broad brush. Many haven't been exposed to aviation and never thought of it as an option. Plus the financial requirements (for those not interested in the military) will also be a major detractor.

 

"Never thought of it as an option" doesn't hold much weight anymore. As Rick said, ESPECIALLY as it applies to females.

Even before the cost of becoming a pilot on the civilian track escalated, there's also plenty of whites that considered cost to be a factor that didn't make it possible. I've known plenty of them.

AA/EEOC at the major, legacy, whatever stage of the game is an outdated concept. Along the lines of what Rick is saying, it's about education early on, and any kind of "advantage"being given early on to point them in the right direction.

Again, by the time it's hiring at the airline level, it's outdated in this day and age.

 

And you would have to ask yourself...why is this? I'll tell you why. We, (African-Americans/ Black folk), were systematically denied ACCESS to the basic pursuits of (economic, educational, social, & judicial) equality. We were denied by white people....primarily by the white male 100% of time. For example, the 15th Amendment gave me the right to vote. Why do we need the Voting Rights Act of 1964? If we enforce the Voting Rights Act then that means that the 15th Amendment isn't worth the paper it's written on. Think about it!

Look at homogeneous races. They don't have this problem and if they do, the magnitude of its affect is minimal at best. Just think, if this country would have resolved its race issue at the start of the 20th century...can you imagine where we would be as a nation today? If that was the case, then this discussion (thread) would be about nepotism, etc.


atp

 

Key words, "were". Acknowledge it, get over it, and move on.

Just like all the whites crying about reverse discrimination is asinine, non whites crying about the past is just as asinine.

 

Sorry, but I have known too many worthless trust fund babies. And using connections to get undeserving children hired into a real job is far different from carving out a place for them in the family business, where the parent is at least assuming some risk.

Equating being born to wealth and connections to "hard work and success" is more than a stretch. It does not pass down like blond hair and blue eyes.

 

Basically....4-500 years of injustice and all you say is "Acknowledge it, get over it, and move on." Man I tell ya...when ignorance is bliss. Classic response. To be very forthright with you xjtguy, tell our Middle-Eastern ally that about what they suffered just prior to and during WWII. See what kind response you get!

You really don't know YOUR history...do you? The past is our greatest teacher. If we don't learn from it, we're doomed to repeat it.

I'm done.



atp

 

There isn't a race/color, creed, gender, etc... that hasn't been *discriminated* against at some point in history by some other peoples.
I personally don't believe in *reverse* discrimination either. It is what it is - forward and back

 

It's funny, my ethnic heritage is what's referred to as Caucasian, with the majority of it from one geographic region. For over a "4-500 years of injustice", that group (my ancestry) was oppressed by ANOTHER group of guess what? Another Caucasian group of people. Isn't that something?

Should I hold ANYBODY in that group in contempt?

Speak for yourself, because you don't really don't know your history EITHER.

Agree with this, see my above. And it CONTINUES to happen in various places in the world. Even though to the outsider, those people can appear exactly the same. Yet there's a racial/ethnic divide. The problems in Africa are a prime example.

But along the line of what you've said on this topic previous;

Which was a response to this post;

 

No one is going to win this argument. Both sides feel differently.

Nothing corrects previous inequalities as the effort into making certain those are of the past and equality is provided in the future.