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Old 01-31-2013 | 08:39 PM
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xjet is next in line to get the bend over command from Delta.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
xjet is next in line to get the bend over command from Delta.
Much like you and your co-workers bent over and took it without lube from your management and voted in drastic concessions?

If we go down, it will at least be with a fight.

You're bitter about SkyWest Inc. grabbing Eagle feed. Get over it dude. Go back to your Eagle threads and salivate over the thought of flying a shiny new 70 seater for pennies on the dollar, while our pilot groups try to make chicken soup out of the chicken sh*t yours and pinnacles pilot groups served the rest of the stuggling regional industry.
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Old 01-31-2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
We are theist expensive operator in the DCI portfolio. Do you really believe RA is going to give us a pass? And now management has decided to stonewall us in negotiations and negotiate directly with the L XJT side for new 700/900s. BOHICA!
Tony I'd like to see hard evidence of your claim that we are the most expensive DCI operator. Not calling BS, just want to see something to back up that claim.

As for L-XJT negotiating rates - That's what any management team would do under this situation. We have a ton of 50-seaters; why not try to negotiate additional flying. We recently received a union e-mail stating the following:

"At this time, however, we have agreed with the Company that further direct discussions on Compensation and Scheduling would not be productive and have decided to move ahead with mediation. We expect that mediation will take place in mid-February. Next week, we will communicate more details on mediation and what we can expect as we move toward the end of the new equipment process."

What that tells me is L XJT is fighting for either the same or better compensation for the dual-class RJs. Nobody is trying to whipsaw.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Tony I'd like to see hard evidence of your claim that we are the most expensive DCI operator. Not calling BS, just want to see something to back up that claim.

As for L-XJT negotiating rates - That's what any management team would do under this situation. We have a ton of 50-seaters; why not try to negotiate additional flying. We recently received a union e-mail stating the following:

"At this time, however, we have agreed with the Company that further direct discussions on Compensation and Scheduling would not be productive and have decided to move ahead with mediation. We expect that mediation will take place in mid-February. Next week, we will communicate more details on mediation and what we can expect as we move toward the end of the new equipment process."

What that tells me is L XJT is fighting for either the same or better compensation for the dual-class RJs. Nobody is trying to whipsaw.
Just curious how long you have been with Xjet. Or flying 121 that is. You have a lot of wisdom and an apparent crystal ball. I'd like to know when I too will have that accurate of a view.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Just curious how long you have been with Xjet. Or flying 121 that is. You have a lot of wisdom and an apparent crystal ball. I'd like to know when I too will have that accurate of a view.
Fine sir,

Oh, please enlighten me - Just how long does one have to be in this industry or at the helm of a mighty jet in 121 aviator-land before their opinion can be acknowledged and taken "seriously" by such highly esteemed and professional individuals like the ones found on this prestigious anonymous Internet forum? Just how many hours swinging gear will it take before my thoughts and opinions can be "validated"? LOL.

The funny thing is, the underlying theme of several of my recent posts is that NOBODY has a crystal ball, and NOBODY knows what's going to happen. So, thanks for agreeing with me!
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Old 02-01-2013 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Much like you and your co-workers bent over and took it without lube from your management and voted in drastic concessions?

If we go down, it will at least be with a fight.

You're bitter about SkyWest Inc. grabbing Eagle feed. Get over it dude. Go back to your Eagle threads and salivate over the thought of flying a shiny new 70 seater for pennies on the dollar, while our pilot groups try to make chicken soup out of the chicken sh*t yours and pinnacles pilot groups served the rest of the stuggling regional industry.
Yup your pilot group will talk tough on message boards just like ours and just like pinnacles. If you went strictly by people on forums our TA probably would have been vote down 100%. Problem is that's a very small percentage. Also I don't care that much about outsourcing since in about 5-7 years anyone that wants to be at a major will be.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX8891
Tony I'd like to see hard evidence of your claim that we are the most expensive DCI operator. Not calling BS, just want to see something to back up that claim.
Are you serious? All you have to do is research the contracts on the main section of this site. Yes, I understand that "pay rates aren't the whole picture", but at the regionals where everything except labor and maintenance is reimbursed, it's a big part of the picture.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 05:49 AM
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Another thread taken over by useless bickering. This forum is such a train wreck.

How about we digress back to the thread referred to as "XJT Pool".

Anyone got any good news?
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Old 02-01-2013 | 05:52 AM
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Double post.
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Old 02-01-2013 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Are you serious? All you have to do is research the contracts on the main section of this site. Yes, I understand that "pay rates aren't the whole picture", but at the regionals where everything except labor and maintenance is reimbursed, it's a big part of the picture.
Actually, yes, I am serious. Not saying you're not right, but you gotta have something to back a claim like that up man. Way too many variables on top of crew and Mx pay to make a WAG after browsing this website. Big part of the chunk, sure, ill buy that. Enough of a chunk to assume that we are the least cost-efficient? Not so sure I would buy that.
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