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Old 02-02-2013 | 09:06 AM
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Furloughs and Displacement are all parts of Management Contract negotiations. They will have to hire based on attrition. Management wants you to think its all doom and gloom unless they can get there cost down.
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Old 02-02-2013 | 09:07 AM
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What. How? Parking 200's?
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Old 02-02-2013 | 10:09 AM
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Based on the FEB senority list we lost 12 on the CRJ side in JAN, and 10 of them were senior enough to be captains. That is a class worth of attrition in two months. We are NOT adaquately staffed for summer and more folks than I can count are hoping to be long gone before then.

If they don't hire and upgrade soon summer TLVs (average amount of credit you get on your schedule) will be back in the 100+ range like last summer. Have fun with that, folks.
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Old 02-02-2013 | 10:35 AM
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I was going to say, why would the continue to interview if they are planning on furloughing...
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Old 02-02-2013 | 11:25 AM
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So just doom and gloom now at xjt?
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Old 02-02-2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hercdaddy22
What. How? Parking 200's?
Yup, 42 Delta owned 200s out of the 66 200s we traded for the 34 large RJs start going back this fall. Management said during that announcement that they would have more details later and no word yet. No word on how many of those 42 are at ASA and how many at Skywest, but both have halted hiring.

Over 20 sim instructors being sent back to the line next month, and all 40 Air Mekong pilots returning to the line due to the airline ceasing operations.
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Old 02-02-2013 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Yup, 42 Delta owned 200s out of the 66 200s we traded for the 34 large RJs start going back this fall. Management said during that announcement that they would have more details later and no word yet. No word on how many of those 42 are at ASA and how many at Skywest, but both have halted hiring.

Over 20 sim instructors being sent back to the line next month, and all 40 Air Mekong pilots returning to the line due to the airline ceasing operations.
Great...7 year FOs get to look forward to 10 years as FOs. Probably a record for the history books.
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Old 02-02-2013 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
Great...7 year FOs get to look forward to 10 years as FOs. Probably a record for the history books.
I call BS on Trip7... or at least the G.O. No way are we going to need to furlough. Even if we love ALL of those airplanes on the CRJ side, there's going to be tons of attrition this year.

1. USAir, JetBlue, Spirit, Allegiant and a few others already hiring. United will be hiring and rumor of AA hiring as well this summer. Corporate gigs are also opening up.

2. The company can't see that far out. Just like we don't have a crystal ball for where to point the ship that is our individual careers, neither does the company. Plus they are more reactionary than precautionary.

3. The company has said several times it doesn't make good business sense to furlough unless the pilots won't be needed for more than 18 months. In the next 36 months, there will be more people leaving XJet (CRJ side) than there are pilots total at some smaller regionals. (Silver, CommutAir)
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Old 02-03-2013 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spudskier:1344921
Originally Posted by Red97Vette
Great...7 year FOs get to look forward to 10 years as FOs. Probably a record for the history books.
I call BS on Trip7... or at least the G.O. No way are we going to need to furlough. Even if we love ALL of those airplanes on the CRJ side, there's going to be tons of attrition this year.

1. USAir, JetBlue, Spirit, Allegiant and a few others already hiring. United will be hiring and rumor of AA hiring as well this summer. Corporate gigs are also opening up.

2. The company can't see that far out. Just like we don't have a crystal ball for where to point the ship that is our individual careers, neither does the company. Plus they are more reactionary than precautionary.

3. The company has said several times it doesn't make good business sense to furlough unless the pilots won't be needed for more than 18 months. In the next 36 months, there will be more people leaving XJet (CRJ side) than there are pilots total at some smaller regionals. (Silver, CommutAir)
"Possible" furloughs is what the word is, which I agree is likely B.S especially with attrition picking up.
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Old 02-03-2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
"Possible" furloughs is what the word is, which I agree is likely B.S especially with attrition picking up.
Come on man! Our union drew a line in the sand in negotiations. Management took their ball and went home. Now they're using scare tactics to scare people like YOU into pressuring the union! Those of us who have been here for a couple of contracts have seen this all before. "Possible" doesn't mean jack. The numbers just don't add up. Go to work, do your job, and quit believing everything you hear in recurrent or read on the interwebs!
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