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03-24-2013 | 04:54 AM

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newarkblows

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Originally Posted by Bozo

Your guys wouldn't. They wouldn't even allow your own line pilots to try both systems and then choose. 12/2012 is when it was offered to XE MEC and the Company. Both said no.

Mainly the financial costs and the handful of better ways to end the stalemate was the reason for the bolded statement. Both parties knew that they were just being difficult at this point to try and get there way. That should tell you something.

How is this still an argument? Did you guys forget the blast mail from the XJT MEC that was "attacking" the ASA MEC about this very thing. The blast mail that was approved and checked by ALPA legal for accuracy. It outlined the exact way that the ASA MEC was drawing their line in the sand and refusing every possible way forward with negotiations. The facts make it extremely hard for the ASA guys to play the victim in all of this.

I guess we could just keep making stuff up for sensationalism and entertainment for your other delusional friends on here.

03-24-2013 | 05:45 AM

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Why would anyone be against being dual qual'd on a CRJ-200 and CRJ-700? That seems like a no brainer to me.

03-24-2013 | 05:49 AM

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Why would anyone be against being dual qual'd on a CRJ-200 and CRJ-700? That seems like a no brainer to me.

My guess is becuase it will result in LESS pilots required.

03-24-2013 | 06:30 AM

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Why would anyone be against being dual qual'd on a CRJ-200 and CRJ-700? That seems like a no brainer to me.

I assume that you have flown both airplanes?

03-24-2013 | 06:59 AM

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Saabs

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My guess is becuase it will result in LESS pilots required.

Bingo. But the morthership Skywest does it so I'm sure they will push for it. Just don't land flat anymore

03-24-2013 | 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by iahflyr

Why would anyone be against being dual qual'd on a CRJ-200 and CRJ-700? That seems like a no brainer to me.

We do it here at SkyWest except its the 200/700/900. It really isn't a big deal and helps to streamline the operation. Exactly the way SouthWest pilots are dual qaul'd on the 737-300 through the 900...

Can't argue the fact that we've been very profitable with this formula.

03-24-2013 | 08:27 AM

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I am confused how this works (dual qual) when you have a base specifically to one equipment. Does this mean that an ATL CR7 pilot can have a trip that originates out of DTW on their line or even have a trip originate out of IAD/DFW on the 200?

03-24-2013 | 09:19 AM

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perhaps this has been brought up already, but whats the deal with calling yourselves "legacy" pilots? your not legacy your RJ pilots. Why not say Original? or something else other than Legacy? Seems like the OP just copied what the CAL and UAL pilots call themselves.

bash away!

03-24-2013 | 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevets

Dual qual is something the company wanted in the new contract. It probably was something that was conceded during joint contract negotiations. So it doesn't surprise me that it found its way into this arbitration award. Especially considering that other airlines already have dual qual.

Nothing is conceded until we vote. If dual qual was an open item it just became harder to use it as leverage.

But if both parties had already agreed to dual qual in the joint negotiation process, then how do they argue against it in the negotiation, mediation, ARBITRATION for these larger aircraft? And even if they didn't agree to that, it's arbitration we are talking about where the company would make the case about industry average.

03-24-2013 | 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by atr42flyer

While we're at it, why call us RJ pilots. That's just what the manufacturer and the industry call us. Why not just call us "sold out pilots". Or maybe "third tier pilots".