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Old 05-01-2013 | 08:53 AM
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Can the 30 be split up amongst regionals?
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Old 05-01-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by coryk
Can the 30 be split up amongst regionals?
United is the happy owner, a couple for you, a couple for you... none for you as you are to expensive.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:20 AM
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I think United will be following Delta's lead in the whipsawing game of their regional partners, so the likelihood of it going to one carrier might be low. Hopefully its a 1:1 exchange for a 50 seater to whoever gets these at their carrier.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238:1401548
I think United will be following Delta's lead in the whipsawing game of their regional partners, so the likelihood of it going to one carrier might be low. Hopefully its a 1:1 exchange for a 50 seater to whoever gets these at their carrier.
Hopefully? I would rather see them park 3 or 4 50 seaters per 175. As a result there will be less outsourced flying. I hope mainline takes back some of the flying.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
I think United will be following Delta's lead in the whipsawing game of their regional partners
I'm not so sure it's a matter of following anybody's lead.

It's been going on since the 90's of a legacy playing one regional carrier off against another for the cheapest feed possible.

It was way, way worse during the BK's. The legacies have even MORE leverage to do so.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
Hopefully? I would rather see them park 3 or 4 50 seaters per 175. As a result there will be less outsourced flying. I hope mainline takes back some of the flying.
As would I but the reality is that it won't happen with them ordering 30 of these aircraft and it going to a regional partner. So since it is not going to mainline, will you be happy with a higher ratio for this aircraft which could result in pilots on the street for that carrier?
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtguy
I'm not so sure it's a matter of following anybody's lead.

It's been going on since the 90's of a legacy playing one regional carrier off against another for the cheapest feed possible.

It was way, way worse during the BK's. The legacies have even MORE leverage to do so.
I just said that since Delta is pretty good at that game than the other legacies it seems or maybe I have just heard more about them than the others.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
I just said that since Delta is pretty good at that game than the other legacies it seems or maybe I have just heard more about them than the others.
In the 90's USAir was good at the game. Since UAL was into BK before NWA and DAL, UAL became very good at that game, etc etc etc.

The ONLY reason CAL never got to play that game (till 2006 anyway) was because they wrote it into the XJT CPA that way.

Must have really burned up CAL management when EVERY other legacy was able to drive the cost of the regional feed down like crazy while they were paying cost + 10% for theirs.
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Old 05-01-2013 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats
Trust me, the guys in St George know this. With that in mind, there's very strong rumors around here that OO will be getting a chunk of these airplanes. How big of a chunk, is anyone's guess.
How could someone that didn't even know Skywest had 700s for Delta, know what will happen with you guys?
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Old 05-01-2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
As would I but the reality is that it won't happen with them ordering 30 of these aircraft and it going to a regional partner. So since it is not going to mainline, will you be happy with a higher ratio for this aircraft which could result in pilots on the street for that carrier?
What he was referring was what Delta did and United is following. Exchange 50 seaters for 76 seaters at a ratio, with a loss of not only total airframes but also a loss of seats to the regional level while shifting flying to mainline with a small NB. Delta is shifting around 12% of the domestic flying to mainline in the next 2 years.
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