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Old 05-28-2013 | 06:55 PM
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And please folks give up on the "We got to stick together", that went out the window a long time ago. If that was the case you'd all stay home and not fly that +70 seater for chump change if you really wanted to support each other. Maybe if people did wages would go up.
Give up? do you commute? its because of attitudes like yours that we cant have nice things. this isn't a black and white issue. My job is my income, and if I rage a fit outside my headquarters guess what...I ain't getting a raise. I don't blame my fellow pilots industry wide for the pay problem, it is far more complex then that. Commuters are a special breed and I will fight for them always. We do stick together whether you like it or not. Plus, some of us need to commute to work in order to....work. and vice versa to get home.

Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
As a non-airline professional pilot, who buys tickets to get somewhere on business or personal, I'm pretty sure the pax and management may ultimately have a say in that. The airline business isn't run for the benefit of commuting employees

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Sorry galaxy flyer, you don't have a say in that. While the industry isn't run FOR commuting airline employees....it is run BY commuting airline employees.

Thank you to all those crews who got me on last second, and gate agents who have reopened gates and one time let me out on to the ramp with the jetbridge pulled back already in order to make it to work or go home.
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Old 05-28-2013 | 07:15 PM
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Sorry, peoplemover90, but the airline run by commuting employees starts becoming unreliable, pax will get a say in things by not buying tickets.

BTW, the airline I flew for went out of business due to their unreliability--EAL.

GF
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Old 05-28-2013 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
As a non-airline professional pilot, who buys tickets to get somewhere on business or personal, I'm pretty sure the pax and management may ultimately have a say in that. The airline business isn't run for the benefit of commuting employees

GF
Let me clarify, I go out of my way for non-rev's and wouldn't delay a flight just for a non-rev's connection, showing up to the gate late, etc. BUT, if there's a gate agent that isn't doing their job, I'm not leaving until we can take everybody we can take. Period.

You think commuting is a benefit?
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Old 05-28-2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Sorry, peoplemover90, but the airline run by commuting employees starts becoming unreliable, pax will get a say in things by not buying tickets.

BTW, the airline I flew for went out of business due to their unreliability--EAL.

GF
People buy airline tix for reliability? Wrong, you have a corporate job BECAUSE the airlines are unreliable.

People buy airline tix because they're cheap.
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Old 05-29-2013 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
BTW, the airline I flew for went out of business due to their unreliability--EAL.
Unreliability due to the IAM strike?

Airlines are so overblocked these days, a 5 minute delay leaving the gate to board a late pax or *gasp* a commuting pilot is EASILY absorbed with a resultant on-time arrival at destination.

As a bizav pilot sitting in the back on a full-fare ticket many times, I've no problem with the captain making a PA saying "We'll be a couple minutes late so we can fill the airplane up."
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Old 05-29-2013 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Sorry, peoplemover90, but the airline run by commuting employees starts becoming unreliable, pax will get a say in things by not buying tickets.

BTW, the airline I flew for went out of business due to their unreliability--EAL.

GF
Fuggedit...
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Old 05-29-2013 | 06:04 PM
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Al,

We have a contractor for that, nice try, tho.

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Old 05-29-2013 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Al,

We have a contractor for that, nice try, tho.

GF
Just commenting that a 121 guy may not know the ins and outs of a 91 guy....and vice versa.
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Old 05-29-2013 | 06:48 PM
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Very true, Al. Both groups make assumptions that aren't warranted.

GF
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Old 05-30-2013 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Sorry, peoplemover90, but the airline run by commuting employees starts becoming unreliable, pax will get a say in things by not buying tickets.

BTW, the airline I flew for went out of business due to their unreliability--EAL.

GF
After a 6 hour delay reliability is out the window. Your everyday pax doesn't give a rat's asz about reliability. They care about paying $1 less than the next carrier will do it for. Your sentiments about commuting employees is misguided, much like most of your posts.
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