I understand you have the right to commute, and I always do anything I can to get anyone on, within reason. I simply get tired of hearing people whine about their commute when they choose to do it. No you didn't have to start all over but you did have the choice to move. I am sorry if you have been left behind on your commutes but sometimes it happens. It doesn't happen to me often but nothing irks me more when an FO commutes in on a red-eye, is basically worthless for the day, then cries all day about being sooo tired because he/she was too cheap to come in the day before and get a hotel.

All I am saying is commuters are probably one of the whiniest bunch of people I have ever come across in my life. Many people in my family have had to move 4+ times over their career because their job changed. It sucks but there are no guarantees in life. All I ask is that commuters quit being babies about something they choose to do to themselves. I swear some commuters are into self harm or something with some of the commutes I have seen people try and do. I will admit I have been lucky, however, my significant other knows and understands that I will move if need be. We don't plan on having kids so that does make things a bit easier. Honestly all you guys have to do is tell your wives commuting is not allowed and you simply have to move.

 

Gene pool ends with you...good.

Does you wife walk on the left or right when she is one step behind?

Seriously LD...pilots are cheap and they whine about the thing bothering them the most. Right now commuters bother you so you are whining about them. You know what I hate? The guy that whines about people whining and thinks everyone should live their lives as they do.

Karma dude...

 

Its what you take on when you insist on commuting. Try another profession if its that miserable bro

 

Two base changes and 2 downgrades, not commuting by choice. But you're right, screw me and all the others who need to commute to make a living. It wasn't like this when I started, but I guess according to you I need to just give up what I have trained and paid a lot of money to learn because a couple of 'fellow' pilots and cranky gate agents like to mess with us.

 

And I didnt say it was miserable, where did I say it was miserable? I only meant it would be nice if we could TRY to help each other. I guess some of you don't see it that way.

 

Yes I know it wasn't..

You made Cappy at G7!?!! Good for you. But I meant more than any G7 FO on your list. In all seriousness, it doesn't matter.. Take a look at how old you are and how old I am.. Fact of the matter is, when I'm your age, I'll still be dreaming of being a mighty CRJ7 commander... Ha oh wait.. Still too young to even upgrade for now. Horrible problem I have, I know

 

You did in fact make the choice to commute, or does your company not pay moving expenses? You don't need to give anything up but quit saying you have no choice. Be greatful you are even able to commute. Most jobs if your company pulls out of a city then tough luck you either move or switch jobs.

 

Two downgrades, a furlough, and 6 base closures/displacements to date. Pretty sure number 7 is coming up in the fall. The first five years, I averaged one base closure/displacement a year. In the fall, that average will go to 1 in just under every 1.85 years.

Well, it's sort of "a choice".

Read my above post. I guess that's good you don't plan on having kids. But if so, would you uproot them and move once a year on average in 5 years? Would the wife be happy about that? Would you move on average every 2 years? Would you move wife and kids to some of the most expensive cities in the country? Do you think you'd ever be able to do things like, I don't know, progress in life and own a home you can live in at that pace? I venture to guess your perspective would be much much different

I don't b1tch about my commute. But to those that say it's "a choice" have yet to see how much that "choice" can get made for you.

Funny, many of the most adement whiners I know are the hub dwellers that complain about the cost of living in the domiciles, taxes in the domiciles, the traffic. Or not being senior of hold day trips, 2 days, or 3 days. Or a lack of day trips, 2 days, or 3 days.

Again, see my above. You say "over the course of a career". I would have had 4 moves in just 4 years.

Perspective, some have it, some don't. I guess you go into the "don't" category.

Thanks for the laugh. AGAIN, perspective. Tell a wife that if there's family/a support system where you live, and there WON'T be one where you're moving too.

 

I've watched Delta 2010 hires INVOLUNTARILY be kicked from DTW 320 to MEM 320 to NYC 757/767 to DTW DC9 to ATL 717. So in less then 3 years they've been forced into 4 category changes. Should they not commute? What about the pilot who moves to base only to be kicked out of base? Will you pay the loss on their homes so they can move to base? Did they choose to commute? You should understand that commuting is not always a choice.

 

I did move, twice. And the moderator reminded me that I also took a loss on my house when I had to sell it only to get moved again in less than a year. Do you really believe that what the company pays covers ALL your moving expenses? I won't even get into how much we lost when my wife had to quit her job, find a new one, only to have to quit again. She's unable to build any longevity and contribute to our income like she was when we started out living at my base.

I don't commute on red eyes and I am not an FO. I drive now because it's easier than fighting for a seat on an unreliable regional. But it doesn't mean that I don't understand why other do it and that I wouldn't help them in any way I could to get to work. Before the flight, I make the walk and it's not a big deal.

When I was not a commuter I always did my best to help the guys. But I didn't do it because I understood, I did it because I don't mind helping people...even whiners.