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05-30-2013 | 10:13 PM

#81

Ultralight

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Originally Posted by LarryDavid

Truth is people make the choice to commute, sometimes they just don't make it on the flight. I do all that I can to get everyone on board but I don't weep for the choices people make. You can justify it all you want but at the end of the day people make the choice to commute instead of putting the for sale sign in front of their house. Commuters don't deserve any better treatment than anybody else

Bollocks. People don't make the choice to commute when they live in SoCal, where their wives work and their kids go to school, then they get based in Detroit, or Newark.
Someone like that deserves a bit of help getting back home to said kids and wives after a 4 day, or 5 days of reserve in a crash pad, and the last thing they need is a d-bag attitude like yours.

05-30-2013 | 10:37 PM

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LarryDavid

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Originally Posted by Ultralight

Sorry but commuters don't deserve to be treated "special". Yes it is a choice. When one gets hired you are told what the bases are. Lots of people have to move for jobs, that is what we call life. Pilots have every right to commute but I have absolutely zero sympathy when they whine about said commute. If a guy from LA knowingly takes a job in DTW or EWR then he can either move of deal with the drama that comes with commuting.

05-31-2013 | 01:52 AM

#83

WIFlyer

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From: Left seat, wait right seat, no no left seat, nope right seat! Ummmm, I guess I am confused

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Originally Posted by LarryDavid

That would be a valid point if bases never closed, upgrades occurred in base and airlines were at least worker neutral instead of against us. That being said, yes those of us who commute still do so as a choice. I accept the drama and I don't ask that you alleviate it, just please don't add to it.

Do we make accommodations for people in every day life when we don't have to? Some do and some don't.

05-31-2013 | 02:45 AM

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If people didn't chase jobs with such reckless abandon then maybe the airlines would be forced to improve the situation. By this I mean they would pay for you too move. The conditions at the airlines will continue to deteriorate if passion for flying outweighs any negative working condition. I would also outlaw long commutes. Too many pilots are irresponsible and start their day tired do to long commutes. If you can responsibly make a long commute work on your own then you should have the integrity to move or find a different job. Don't complain about the pay after you already accepted the job.

05-31-2013 | 03:47 AM

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bernouli

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Originally Posted by BTpilot

I've delayed a flight for a commuting pilot more than a few times..

Haha captain tells me "go in the box and put in a push delay.. For reason put 'waited for commuter. Sue us.'"

It wasn't exactly you delaying the flight then. Was it.

Do you sign the log can too?

05-31-2013 | 03:58 AM

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DeadHead

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryDavid

Sorry but commuters don't deserve to be treated "special". Yes it is a choice. When one gets hired you are told what the bases are. Lots of people have to move for jobs, that is what we call life. Pilots have every right to commute but I have absolutely zero sympathy when they whine about said commute. If a guy from LA knowingly takes a job in DTW or EWR then he can either move of deal with the drama that comes with commuting.

What you consider as "special treatment", others may consider "professional courtesy".

05-31-2013 | 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by vilcas

Had a jumpseater last week. Left house at 4 AM drove 3 hours to DFW. 4 hours in JS then had a trip to LHR that night. Insane

05-31-2013 | 04:14 AM

#88

Hurryage65

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This thread still going?

05-31-2013 | 04:57 AM

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680crewchief

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Originally Posted by MrMustache

Had a jumpseater last week. Left house at 4 AM drove 3 hours to DFW. 4 hours in JS then had a trip to LHR that night. Insane

In his defense, he got a good 7 hours shuteye enroute...gasp!

05-31-2013 | 05:28 AM

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yeah sure

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Originally Posted by LarryDavid

When I first got my job I lived at base. Then after a few years I was moved to another base. I SOLD MY HOUSE AND UPROOTED MY FAMILY. Then after about 8 months I was moved back and downgraded. I no longer had my house to go back to and I was not about to buy another one on the chance I was going to get jerked around again. I decided at that point I needed to put my family back close to the rest of my family and live where I had roots. I tried to do it their way, but it didn't work. Your comment is one of an insensitive jerk with his head in the sand. It happens at the majors too idiot.