we all need to focus on PSA and the next regional they go to turning down these concessionary contracts. obviously what the OP suggested will never happen

 

Comair had a couple... Since they were about the only regional to strike, it makes sense they are the only ones with scabs.

They are most likely retired or not flying anymore

 

One thread to rule them all? Damn, I was just to getting use to putting my regional up on a pedestal, selling myself short and backstabbing other regionals.

 

That's a great idea but where to do put it. Do you wear it on your back or something? Have the FA hold it while the PAX deplane? Then divvy it up? I never got tips in Charter flying because the general public thinks I am rich pilot. If we all showed up to work in tights, running shoes and an apron things may be different.

 

Get creative. If you can't figure out where to put the tip jar, you don't deserve the tips.



Besides... just make a flight bag sticker out of your W2, that way you have some solid evidence to convince pax that you're not a 'rich pilot.'

 

Good job for the OP.

Too bad most all of the replies here are from are spineless wimps that seem to have been whipped into submission by airline management.

What surprises me is that I have seen pilots who are much older and have much more to lose stand up to management. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose, but at least they have the guts and integrity to fight for their futures.

Young pilots who are frightened by airlines into agreeing to contracts that are shameful to the industry need to stop arguing in favor of their overlords and grow a pair. After all, what have you got to lose?? A job that pays minimum wages in the face of an industry that is short of pilots! It would not take very long to get another airline job in this economy. Starting over after one or three or five years is nothing compared to the pilots from the majors who have twenty years invested and then stand up and fight for their compensation. Besides, if you get furloughed, you sometimes have preferential hiring at other union carriers.

So stop bashing the guy who comes up with the balls to try to rally support for your future and back him up with some constructive arguments and ideas instead of spending so much time and effort working against yourselves.

Argue for your limitations and they are yours.

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I like this. Good work on the OP!! Stop the whipsaw!!

 

While many of you seem content to wallow in fear of the straw man management has created, I propose the following.

We have a grass roots effort underway. Its growing daily.

I propose that we collectively inform our respective managements that there will be a cessation of service beginning two days before Thanksgiving, at which point, its incumbent upon each member of the STW movement to do the right thing and add themselves to the sick roster, fatigue, go out on disability or resign.

At this point we will be in a position to make demands. If jets go to mainline, good. That is where most of us want them and they will need us to pilot them.

November 26th, the day that will begin the season of our discontent.

Many of you have endured enormous student loans, broken marriages, families, relationships, financial hardship, fatigue and compromised health to work for $9 per hour. It stops Nov 26th.

And don't lecture me about the legality of this. It should be illegal for a company to steal from us, a union too.

What is it going to take for you guys to realize that 'WE' have all the control?

"Now is the winter of our discontent / Made glorious summer by this son of York" Shakespeare - Richard III

 

Yeah, but those old guys had flown freight, checks, or something else. They weren't hired with 250 hours or worse yet, paid for a job because, "It'll get me to the mainline sooner."

 

I'm sorry, but If we are going to expect to be treated as professionals then we need to act like professionals. As a professional, you are expected to act with integrity. If you are sick, call in. If you are not, don't. If you are fatigued, call in. If you are not, don't. If you are medically qualified for LOA, take it. If you aren't, don't. If you are being treated unfairly, then do something about it in line with the professionalism expected of this industry. You can quit, you can organize a strike, you can volunteer with your union, or you can become a part of management, all of which will allow you the opportunity to make a change and maintain your professionalism. If you lie to get where you want to go, you will find that the end does not necessarily justify the means, and you will become that which you despise.

The pay should be better and the QOL should be better but we got into this industry knowing how it was and chose to stay. Quit or work to make a difference, but don't lie, cheat or steal to get there. You won't be an airline pilot forever, but you will have to live with yourself.