View Poll Results: Would you support a part time pilot position?
Yes - I support this
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16.39%
Yes - I support this and would stop flying full time
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20.49%
Yes - I currently work in a field unrelated to aviation and am qualified
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9.84%
Maybe - I would only support this for FO's, not Captains
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7.38%
No - I am an airline pilot and do not support this
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40.98%
No - I am a pilot but not for the airlines and do not support this
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4.92%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll
Part Time
03-21-2014 | 07:42 AM
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Isn't this what a lot of senior pilots at the majors do already? Plenty of pilots (including captains) fly so little they have full time jobs on the side. No baby sitting required. Heck, one of the reasons I got into this is to have enough down time to pursue side interests.
The difference here is a "Part Time" pilot would be considered part time, he/she would get part time pay (10 hours or whatever), no benefits of any kind likely (such as health insurance, 401k, etc..).
But I see the point you are making, said senior pilot would still come back to work after 2-3 weeks off and still remember which buttons to push and to not touch the buttons that are red and dusty.
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03-21-2014 | 07:53 AM
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Haha, I love the hate.
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That's how many hours I have flown the past year on RSV (bidding/proffering with the intent to fly as little as possible). Mind you, I am still "full time" since many days I am home on a RAP but I never knew you guys hated me so much.
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That's how many hours I have flown the past year on RSV (bidding/proffering with the intent to fly as little as possible). Mind you, I am still "full time" since many days I am home on a RAP but I never knew you guys hated me so much.
03-21-2014 | 07:57 AM
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Haha, I love the hate.
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That's how many hours I have flown the past year on RSV (bidding/proffering with the intent to fly as little as possible). Mind you, I am still "full time" since many days I am home on a RAP but I never knew you guys hated me so much.
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That's how many hours I have flown the past year on RSV (bidding/proffering with the intent to fly as little as possible). Mind you, I am still "full time" since many days I am home on a RAP but I never knew you guys hated me so much.
03-21-2014 | 08:28 AM
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P.S. I didn't vote in the poll because the idea is ridiculous. It doesn't matter if pilots are for or against because it doesn't make sense.
03-21-2014 | 08:31 AM
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But you have a few people on here saying they don't want to fly with a part timer because they'd be "rusty". Bull****. Reserves can fly LESS than part time hours AND they're the new hires. Do people ***** and moan because they have to fly with reserves?? I'm 100% for part time positions. It would give me a chance to start searching for a replacement career while still being able to fly and/or travel. Details could be worked out within a CBA concerning seniority, Jumpseat priority, etc.
03-21-2014 | 08:34 AM
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Hell no, not working for free. And you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea just because you don't like it. Just because you use the word "Period" in your sentence doesn't mean anything at all. The reality is there is nobody in the pilot training pipeline and there are a ton of pilots able but not willing to come back due to conditions.
03-21-2014 | 08:39 AM
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Hell no, not working for free. And you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the idea just because you don't like it. Just because you use the word "Period" in your sentence doesn't mean anything at all. The reality is there is nobody in the pilot training pipeline and a ton of pilots able but not willing to come back due to conditions.
03-21-2014 | 08:48 AM
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I'm not dodging it, I can't answer it. I don't know what it costs for an annual recurrent training for a First Officer is. As far as does it make sense for an airline? I suppose it might make sense if it is the difference between flying or parking the airplanes is the reality. When you furlough a pilot, you layoff the cheapest labor, not the most expensive labor.
03-21-2014 | 09:00 AM
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I'm not dodging it, I can't answer it. I don't know what it costs for an annual recurrent training for a First Officer is. As far as does it make sense for an airline? I suppose it might make sense if it is the difference between flying or parking the airplanes is the reality. When you furlough a pilot, you layoff the cheapest labor, not the most expensive labor.
03-21-2014 | 09:04 AM
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While it is a cost for sure I don't think recurrent is cost prohibitive to the point that this sort of thing is out of the question. 10 hours a month seems like a waste, but there is some point where it isn't. Is it 25 hours? 35 hours? Who knows. There is a number that would make sense though.
Also, your ONLY argument against this sort of thing is because "recurrent is too expensive"?
Recurrent isn't that expensive that it's out of the question, you are being dramatic.
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