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Old 09-18-2014, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner View Post
Found something interesting on the Bombardier website. A brochure about the 8.
They are not going to spend the capital. Each airframe would have individually tailored needs...too much investment. Program would have been in place already. Sources in the know say at least 20 145s are in the works They want the labor cost savings by getting that 4th jet on property. 175s to follow, but still could go to Envoy if they agree to a deal similar to ours/PSA. Yes, I'll bet...
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:44 PM
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Found something interesting on the Bombardier website. A brochure about the 8.
Old news for pdt people. Already been considered and dismissed a while ago.
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:50 PM
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first they have about 2 years to start timing out, plenty of time
second AAG dont care about stinking cost just pay
third most likely the 140's in the desert, if you like we can just ferry them right to you

lets not forget--From PDT's president:

"For those of you concerned with Dash 8 flying, rest assured that our turboprops aren’t going away any time soon. The Dash is an important part of the American Airlines’ route structure, and we expect to continue to fly both the -100s and -300s for the foreseeable future. Two of our Dash 8s have been painted in American Eagle livery; 23 more are scheduled to be painted over the next several months." good time to do the mod's.
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:12 PM
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first they have about 2 years to start timing out, plenty of time
second AAG dont care about stinking cost just pay
third most likely the 140's in the desert, if you like we can just ferry them right to you

lets not forget--From PDT's president:

"For those of you concerned with Dash 8 flying, rest assured that our turboprops aren’t going away any time soon. The Dash is an important part of the American Airlines’ route structure, and we expect to continue to fly both the -100s and -300s for the foreseeable future. Two of our Dash 8s have been painted in American Eagle livery; 23 more are scheduled to be painted over the next several months." good time to do the mod's.
I bet everyone at PDT would be fine flying totally refurbished -8's for years to come with their current contract. Hope it happens... Too bad it won't.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:18 AM
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I bet everyone at PDT would be fine flying totally refurbished -8's for years to come with their current contract. Hope it happens... Too bad it won't.

I would rather an Airbus or Boeing be my next plane. Yes keep the RJs far away from us. That airplane has caused more headaches in this industry then anything else.

Maybe Parker will come at Eagle with a 16 year deal like they signed in 1997. Believe me it will be worst then there last offer.
But I'm sure they'll vote it down again.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:24 AM
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Believe me it will be worst then there last offer.
...makes my eyes hurt...
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by twighead View Post
Old news for pdt people. Already been considered and dismissed a while ago.
Okay. Just thought it interesting, as extensions to limits have been given in the past by the FAA.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner View Post
Okay. Just thought it interesting, as extensions to limits have been given in the past by the FAA.
I hear ya, I was just saying that PDT had mentioned this as a possibility for our fleet a long time ago and that the expense is so large that it's probably cheaper to replace them with new airplanes.

While I'm certainly no expert on the extension program, I hear it calls for gutting the entire airplane, putting in a glass cockpit and all new avionics, new systems, and even some structural work. I just don't see it being worth it. Also, let's face it, no one wants turboprops anymore, least of all the passengers.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:32 AM
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I hear ya, I was just saying that PDT had mentioned this as a possibility for our fleet a long time ago and that the expense is so large that it's probably cheaper to replace them with new airplanes.

While I'm certainly no expert on the extension program, I hear it calls for gutting the entire airplane, putting in a glass cockpit and all new avionics, new systems, and even some structural work. I just don't see it being worth it. Also, let's face it, no one wants turboprops anymore, least of all the passengers.
Passengers will fly on anything if it saves them 3 dollars on Expedia...
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:22 AM
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Passengers will fly on anything if it saves them 3 dollars on Expedia...
No argument there. But then they show up, see the airplane and do nothing but complain.
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