8JRMfortheyear

Over dose.

use2fly

Your help is needed in Ferguson.

Pilottim79

TSA is tripling in size and hiring CQFOs. So safe to say advancement is to be had at all levels if people hurry over.

Silver02ex

It's a gamble! I can see it either way. What If an FO leaves the bonus money next year and jump to another regional and those planes they were suppose to get never come? How about they leave for another regional and 8 months later right before he/she upgrade, Spirit or JB calls and want them in class. How much money has they thrown away? We saw what happened at Pinnacle (07) and Mesaba (08) when pilot chased an upgrade.

8JRMfortheyear

Just by leaving pinnacle your career expectation will increase. I find it funny how guys all of a sudden "care" about your lateral move or " leaving money behind". By staying all you are doing is furthering the senior group careers at your expense while being sh,t on. Like silver said, it's a gamble. Make the move and get out of the whipsaw game. The retention Money should have been yours to being with but 85% said otherwise.

ShyGuy

PSA and TSA are safe bets for the next 12 months with much better prospects than staying at 9E. You can't use 2007-2008 as an example because we had two huge factors: a one-time Age 65 rule that stagnated everyone for 5 years, and the 2008-2010 recession which was the worst we had seen in decades. Both those factors are not around the corner in the next 12 months. If Spirit or JetBlue calls, then leave right away and don't worry about any money at a regional. It seems that some are in denial that these payments are simply stop-loss programs to ensure crews show up to work as planes are parked. There's no reason to stick around. Going to TSA or PSA and upgrading makes up for whatever 30k you are "supposed" to get in the next 2 years anyway.

vilcas

Most of the posts here are people with an axe to grind against Endeavor. As you plan your move try to imagine what is likely to happen. Delta wants to control their regional brand so the standard of service is the same from PIA to AMS. This control is given to them by having Endeavor. ENDEAVOR IS NOT COMAIR.

ShyGuy

Delta doesn't care. They want their flight schedules filled. If that means Air Wisconsin can do it, that's what they'll do. What's FOs here should remember is there are those with vested interest in the SSP that relies on FOs sticking around until they get their shot at Delta. Staffing is so bad that endeavor wants to illegally hold CAs back to staff the airline instead of getting them into a Delta class. There's plenty of "advice" going around telling FOs to stay. You have to ask yourself, is this now a current or a future SSP captain? Then take the advice with a grain of salt.

Nantonaku

Everybody has an agenda. You have the Compass/PSA/TSA pilots who need people below them to move up and upgrade. You have people such as yourself and other relatively senior people at 9E who need FO's to stay so Endeavor doesn't implode. You have people such as ShyGuy who don't want to see anything good happen at Endeavor for fear of being left out of the party.

As much as I think ShyGuy is full of it, in this case I think he is right. Any FO that leaves for Compass/PSA/TSA in the next 6 months will instantly be in a better spot. The quality of live will be better, the money will be better and the upgrade will be faster. Endeavor can't compete and Delta has shown time and again they are not in the regional business and don't care what happens at Endeavor. If they wanted to make Endeavor a place where people wanted to work they could but they refuse. That is the end of the story, Endeavor will never be a place people want to work and thus will fail.

Farmlover

Why is shy guy still commenting on 9e topics. He's been gone for a good amount of time he has no clue what's going on here any more.