Who offers the best Flow.
12-27-2014 | 09:20 AM
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And with the new enhanced flow, Envoy will be the only airline that consistently loses pilots off the top of the list which in turn helps everyone below them. Other Regionals there is no guarantee the people senior to you will move on quickly if at all. Envoy has a guarantee of 20 to 30 per month minimum flowing to AA. Add to that people who leave for other majors or LCCs and you begin to get an idea of the movement you will see at Envoy.
Not to mention, your interview at Envoy is your interview at AA. Once hired you are also hired by AA and can keep that job at AA in your back pocket while applying to Delta or United if you want.
Not to mention, your interview at Envoy is your interview at AA. Once hired you are also hired by AA and can keep that job at AA in your back pocket while applying to Delta or United if you want.
12-27-2014 | 10:04 AM
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I don't get your math.
"Probably just about half (or those wanting to flow) of the seniority list might be at Mainline before the first 145's hit the property."
If the 145s hit the property in Jan 2016 (one year from now), and if AA hires every single month in 2015, that's only 3/mo = 36 PDT pilots.
That's 10% of your seniority list at AA by Jan 16th--not half.
"Probably just about half (or those wanting to flow) of the seniority list might be at Mainline before the first 145's hit the property."
If the 145s hit the property in Jan 2016 (one year from now), and if AA hires every single month in 2015, that's only 3/mo = 36 PDT pilots.
That's 10% of your seniority list at AA by Jan 16th--not half.
12-27-2014 | 10:27 AM
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And with the new enhanced flow, Envoy will be the only airline that consistently loses pilots off the top of the list which in turn helps everyone below them. Other Regionals there is no guarantee the people senior to you will move on quickly if at all. Envoy has a guarantee of 20 to 30 per month minimum flowing to AA. Add to that people who leave for other majors or LCCs and you begin to get an idea of the movement you will see at Envoy.
Not to mention, your interview at Envoy is your interview at AA. Once hired you are also hired by AA and can keep that job at AA in your back pocket while applying to Delta or United if you want.
Not to mention, your interview at Envoy is your interview at AA. Once hired you are also hired by AA and can keep that job at AA in your back pocket while applying to Delta or United if you want.
I remeber when I was hired in 2010...by summer 2011 I already moved 500 numbers up. Things where moving pretty quick until bankruptcy affected us. I believe we will start seeing the same numbers as far as we get new people.
12-27-2014 | 11:34 AM
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What will convince new hires to come to Envoy as it continues to shrink faster than new hires come and gummers flow off the top?
12-27-2014 | 12:01 PM
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Wonder how many CFIs are in the pipeline (ads everywhere, even this thread). I know they have hit the 141 schools hard; students love flight benefits and signing bonuses.
12-27-2014 | 12:39 PM
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That's an interesting idea... they basically have the cradle to grave system set up - get hired as a pipeline instructor and you are already an AA pilot. Yes there are plenty of loop holes, asterisks, and assumptions not to mention just waiting till your number gets called to flow up to AA. But recruitment will probably push that idea hard - I just wonder how many extra people will bite.
12-27-2014 | 12:52 PM
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Also once they are done with 2008 hires, upgrade time will be down to 2010 hires.
12-27-2014 | 01:25 PM
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Who offers the best Flow.
It's a good deal for new cfi's that have aviation degrees. All benefits like a new hire, also I feel like that's a big chunk of the new pool of pilots and they hit all those schools hard. I was part 61 with a bachelors, it would help if they gave a signing bonus to us instead of just the av degree guys. As of now not that many have signed up though maybe the flow will attract more. I don't know..
12-27-2014 | 04:12 PM
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Now THAT is sad !
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