Anything New At AWAC?
02-16-2015 | 04:13 PM
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It's definitely combination of new hire and training quality. Some new hire didn't even need to know jepp to pass the interview. They think that "o they will teach me to read jepp" so when it is time to go to sim, they still don't know where to find anything.
When 2-3 people needed extra training, you can argue that they didn't come in prepared or they are slow learners. But when over 90% need extra sim, it may be time to examine the instructors. It doesn't matter how many sessions of cpt or sim you give them if the instructors had all the intention of setting them up to fail!
When 2-3 people needed extra training, you can argue that they didn't come in prepared or they are slow learners. But when over 90% need extra sim, it may be time to examine the instructors. It doesn't matter how many sessions of cpt or sim you give them if the instructors had all the intention of setting them up to fail!
02-16-2015 | 04:40 PM
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Obv I've only been through one initial, but 99% of them seem to be. Open the limitations section, ask a bunch of limitations that are marked as need to be memorized. Get the IAC (inflight emer checklist) ask a bunch of procedures (most want the ones that are not asterisked as required to be memorized, so you have to have the whole thing down cold, its only one page front and back though). Ask some general system questions both using the in aircraft systems screen, or the overhead panel as a guide or questions that use the outside the aircraft preflight photo book as a guide. That's it ~ 45min-1hr (time my vary if you stick your foot in your mouth at some point).
02-16-2015 | 04:58 PM
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Having been through a few orals, like what was said before...they'll use the overhead panel as their oral guide for systems. So my advice is to know the electrical system COLD, because that's the first panel they'll most likely start at. Set the tone early, and you'll be fine. IAC items...never been asked anything except Aileron/elevator system jammed, stab trim runaway, or uncommanded yaw. They'll ask you questions that they don't expect you to answer correctly, as teaching points. Don't let it get you flustered, no one is perfect.
02-17-2015 | 08:33 AM
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Your instructor will prep you for the oral everyday at the hotel lobby. They pick a system or 2 a day and just keep asking you questions til they run out of questions. If you are sharp, they will keep digging and digging til you cannot answer anymore and they will stop and explain it. Then you will learn something you didnt learn at system. But if you are not sharp, then they will just repeat what your system instructor already told you.
02-17-2015 | 11:01 AM
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The quality of instructors may ebb and flow slightly, but there is no crisis. If you come prepared as we pound away on you in indoc/systems to be...you will pass.
If you have training issues and have to return, during that time off, you are being paid to stay sharp. That means studying until you are called back. It may be boring, but do you want the job or not?
The line pilots are supposed to study too; we teach this material to be used out on the line, not only when it is time for recurrent. If you approach it that way, should there be a gap in training, the readjustment should be minimal.
02-17-2015 | 03:51 PM
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This is not, as they say, rocket science. Success is bred through good study habits. AWAC has been flying the CRJ since the 1990s, the training program works.
The quality of instructors may ebb and flow slightly, but there is no crisis. If you come prepared as we pound away on you in indoc/systems to be...you will pass.
If you have training issues and have to return, during that time off, you are being paid to stay sharp. That means studying until you are called back. It may be boring, but do you want the job or not?
The line pilots are supposed to study too; we teach this material to be used out on the line, not only when it is time for recurrent. If you approach it that way, should there be a gap in training, the readjustment should be minimal.
The quality of instructors may ebb and flow slightly, but there is no crisis. If you come prepared as we pound away on you in indoc/systems to be...you will pass.
If you have training issues and have to return, during that time off, you are being paid to stay sharp. That means studying until you are called back. It may be boring, but do you want the job or not?
The line pilots are supposed to study too; we teach this material to be used out on the line, not only when it is time for recurrent. If you approach it that way, should there be a gap in training, the readjustment should be minimal.
The ground instructors at AWAC were great, my cpt instructor was meh, and my sim instructor was pretty crazy(and didn't necessarily follow the book), although I know for a fact that he left. In my class 5 needed extra sim out of seven
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