Anything New At AWAC?
01-15-2015 | 07:00 PM
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01-15-2015 | 07:14 PM
#52
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From: A320 - F/O
Only 50 of the 71 200's that ZW has will be painted in the new AA colors.
01-15-2015 | 07:22 PM
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The guy that left after IOE did because he claimed to have captains tell him to go somewhere else with a brighter future.
**Don't bash, just saying what I was told.**
01-15-2015 | 07:22 PM
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I'm at awac. Probably biased, but trying to be objective. So these are just facts
-upgrade is current ~4 years. Has been dropping, sharply, was over 7 less then 1 year ago. Any guess that this will continue to decrease beyond this is speculation. Yes we have people leaving, but no one truly know how much further that number will drop.
-no one knows what will happen after 2015. This fact should be 100% shouted from the rafters. Will 100% of our flying stop? very, very unlikely, but both sides of this argument are basically fighting over hearsay speculation and that's about it. AWAC lower to middle management (ie none of the 6 owners) have said there is an extension past 2015. That's all we know. Anything else is rumor to be frank.
-This is probably the best regional you can work for. Pay rates are good, work rules are probably the best, reserve sucks but what you gonna do.
-We are a privately held company, no one but the 6 awesome, fun loving, best brah's eva, jabronis, that actually own this place know if will be around in 2015,2017,2020,3454(go go mars overnight(so what if the 200 can't get to 310, how much further can mars actually be?)). So understand that it is a calculated risk.
-That being said, best regional left, the closet one really isn't that close when you run all the numbers.
source:
(year 2, 15-17 off a month, 50k, top insurance in the industary (inculding majors), free cheese balls during training, no one else can do that, once again grain on salt the next few year are currently shaky at best)
P.P.S - def not an awac fap-a-thon, coming here after the delta corn-hole-e-o is 100% a calculated risk, but if the doors will stay open for a few years it is 100% the best place to be. Just my opinion, but 70% of the time im right all the time. Stay classy APC
-upgrade is current ~4 years. Has been dropping, sharply, was over 7 less then 1 year ago. Any guess that this will continue to decrease beyond this is speculation. Yes we have people leaving, but no one truly know how much further that number will drop.
-no one knows what will happen after 2015. This fact should be 100% shouted from the rafters. Will 100% of our flying stop? very, very unlikely, but both sides of this argument are basically fighting over hearsay speculation and that's about it. AWAC lower to middle management (ie none of the 6 owners) have said there is an extension past 2015. That's all we know. Anything else is rumor to be frank.
-This is probably the best regional you can work for. Pay rates are good, work rules are probably the best, reserve sucks but what you gonna do.
-We are a privately held company, no one but the 6 awesome, fun loving, best brah's eva, jabronis, that actually own this place know if will be around in 2015,2017,2020,3454(go go mars overnight(so what if the 200 can't get to 310, how much further can mars actually be?)). So understand that it is a calculated risk.
-That being said, best regional left, the closet one really isn't that close when you run all the numbers.
source:
(year 2, 15-17 off a month, 50k, top insurance in the industary (inculding majors), free cheese balls during training, no one else can do that, once again grain on salt the next few year are currently shaky at best)
P.P.S - def not an awac fap-a-thon, coming here after the delta corn-hole-e-o is 100% a calculated risk, but if the doors will stay open for a few years it is 100% the best place to be. Just my opinion, but 70% of the time im right all the time. Stay classy APC
01-16-2015 | 07:30 AM
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01-16-2015 | 07:45 AM
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Right??? That's what they all say until backed into a corner. Most recent example is the Eagle/Envoy vote. Seems the majority on Internet forums such as this as amendmently proclaim to have "a spine" then the vote comes out. I really doubt Air Wisconsin has a special formula for only hiring people with spines.
01-16-2015 | 01:29 PM
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One analogy I can give you is like this: back in primary training, you had your pick of instructors. Your CFI will sit right seat but his mind is wondering if Awac/Skywest/etc has looked at his app, we all know you wont get good training out of this guy. Now you have 2 fresh CFI sitting up front of a CRJ sim with a douch in the back who is supposed to be teaching and running the sim but his mind is wondering "why hasn't Delta/United/AA called me?" And probably bitter about how some people he deems less qualified than him getting calls. With the same reasoning, those 2 new hires wont get good training except now they don't get to pick their instructors, 121 failure record will follow them around..etc
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