Anything New At AWAC?
09-01-2015 | 09:59 AM
#661
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Everyone I've talked to in person has said no. Some may be blowing smoke and in reality will end up voting yes. I just don't see the benefit of voting this TA in personally, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and what works best for them.
09-01-2015 | 03:45 PM
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Where in the world do you get these numbers?? The cost of our share is going up 2% of what the entire plan cost, not just 2% of what you pay. For my family plan it will cost me about $55 more per month. And that's just for right now. You know d*mn well that the cost will go up each and every year.
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09-01-2015 | 03:48 PM
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The only people I've talked to in person yet that are yes voters are a few senior FO's that think this will make their life better as RSV Captains in the near future. Like others said, maybe there is a lot of smoke being blown here, but the overwhelming majority I've spoken with think this thing is a total turd and, frankly, an insult to this pilot group.
09-01-2015 | 03:51 PM
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Where in the world do you get these numbers?? The cost is going up 2% of the entire plan cost, not just 2% of what you pay. For my family plan it will cost me about $55 more per month. And that's just for right now. You know d*mn well that the cost will go up each and every year.
Completely wrong. The pilot share is going from 25 to 27%. The pilots don't know how much, if any, the total plan cost is changing for the Company bid that doesn't change the pilots still pay 27%.
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09-01-2015 | 03:55 PM
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Correct. Maybe my words didn't come across as I intended. Our share goes from 25 to 27%. My point was that the 27% that we pay comes from the total cost of the plan. The other poster was just adding 2% to what he pays now. That isn't how it works.
09-01-2015 | 03:56 PM
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The cost of healthcare grew 3-4% every year for the last few years. So, you'll likely be paying 6% more than you were last year.
09-01-2015 | 04:01 PM
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That's a safe bet. Where is my increase in pay to offset this?? The awesome per diem increase?? Simple fact is that I will be paying more for health care under this TA, but my actual pay will not increase one cent from what it is under the current CBA.
09-01-2015 | 04:09 PM
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Fair point. My overall point, though, was there's not really a mechanism to force the company to prove the increase in their costs, the national rise in costs notwithstanding.
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09-01-2015 | 04:19 PM
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True but at a fixed percentage payment (25% under current cba) we eat that increase just as the company does. One thing that gets glossed over a bit is an increase from 25% to 27% is not a 2% increase. It is in fact an 8% increase of cost over what you are currently paying. Personally, adding 8% to what i currently drop per month on health insurance is going to make it a no for me.
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