Pilot Shortage (2015 Embry Riddle summit)
01-13-2015 | 12:02 PM
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I agree with most of this. But RJ flights aren't cheaper. In many cases they're actually more expensive because they go to monopolized destinations.
Last week we looked up the price of a RT ticket on one of the routes we frequently fly at my carrier from DCA. It was around $1000 for a ticket on that 90 minute flight. It's frequently a full flight.
Last week we looked up the price of a RT ticket on one of the routes we frequently fly at my carrier from DCA. It was around $1000 for a ticket on that 90 minute flight. It's frequently a full flight.
01-13-2015 | 12:07 PM
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Even if my pay doubled it wouldn't have an appreciable effect on the cost of a ticket.
It would be interesting to see how much of the annual operating budget of a carrier goes to pilot compensation, executive compensation, MX compensation, etc.
I would love to see honest charts that have this information.
It would be interesting to see how much of the annual operating budget of a carrier goes to pilot compensation, executive compensation, MX compensation, etc.
I would love to see honest charts that have this information.
01-13-2015 | 02:30 PM
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01-13-2015 | 03:55 PM
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It's actually more around 3.5%. In regulation it reached as high as 15%. That's well over $1000hr for a widebody captain. A lot of that paycheck has been passed onto the passengers, and the fuel bill. CEO's pay has been about the same percentage wise.
01-13-2015 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
"Regionals" shouldn't be like minor league baseball. It's real flying in real airplanes with real passengers, accounting for about 50% of all departures.
What is the difference in the minor leagues and major leagues except for supposed talent/experience level?
Minor league baseball is played with real balls and real bats in front of real fans.
Originally Posted by saab2000
"Regionals" shouldn't be like minor league baseball. It's real flying in real airplanes with real passengers, accounting for about 50% of all departures.
What is the difference in the minor leagues and major leagues except for supposed talent/experience level?
Minor league baseball is played with real balls and real bats in front of real fans.
01-13-2015 | 06:19 PM
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From: die Pilotin
He took your original statement:
Everyone doesn't have to learn in all glass million dollar new planes.
and "fixed" it to say:
Nobody should be allowed to learn in all glass million dollar new planes.
CLT just changed your original statement to say what he believed to be a more correct statement.
Everyone doesn't have to learn in all glass million dollar new planes.
and "fixed" it to say:
Nobody should be allowed to learn in all glass million dollar new planes.
CLT just changed your original statement to say what he believed to be a more correct statement.
01-14-2015 | 03:33 AM
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I'll save them two days....pay more at the regional level and there is no longer a shortage.
I understand that many U.S.pilots, who are only thinking about U.S.flying still believe this. It is wrong, because the pilot shortage is worldwide.
I personally think minimum base pay of $14.5/month is pretty good for the-145, and $24.5 is really good for the small Airbus captains.
Ideas: AA/UAL/DAL guarantee pilot training loans and provide 100% flow through with number and date of hire at parent major when starting at the regional. Or, the majors hire high schools grads, just like UAL used to do...back then mins were a diploma and a PPL.
I understand that many U.S.pilots, who are only thinking about U.S.flying still believe this. It is wrong, because the pilot shortage is worldwide.
I personally think minimum base pay of $14.5/month is pretty good for the-145, and $24.5 is really good for the small Airbus captains.
Ideas: AA/UAL/DAL guarantee pilot training loans and provide 100% flow through with number and date of hire at parent major when starting at the regional. Or, the majors hire high schools grads, just like UAL used to do...back then mins were a diploma and a PPL.
Last edited by atpcliff; 01-14-2015 at 03:45 AM.
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