Pilot Shortage (2015 Embry Riddle summit)
01-17-2015 | 09:53 AM
#131
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All they care about is a short term fix that would staff the regionals for a few years until their tenure is up and it will be someone else's problem. Going back to wet commercial ticket will just delay the shortage for another 2 years. The same thing happened with age 65 and they did nothing to get ready for today.
I think eventually they will see the light, or maybe they have but don't want to admit it, or are just trying to milk the regionals for a few more years. In the end I think there will [I]maybe[I] be a regional for each mainline or the demand will allow small narrow bodies to be flown on current RJ routes by mainline pilots.
I think eventually they will see the light, or maybe they have but don't want to admit it, or are just trying to milk the regionals for a few more years. In the end I think there will [I]maybe[I] be a regional for each mainline or the demand will allow small narrow bodies to be flown on current RJ routes by mainline pilots.
01-17-2015 | 10:09 AM
#132
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Two thoughts:
1) The link, in the original post, was to a press release from Embry Riddle. The media contact is listed as [email protected]. You could always send Mr. Roddey an email and ask him if he is willing to divulge the findings of this star-studded "board of inquiry" and ask what measures the airlines are likely to take in order to deal with the "pilot supply" issue, (hint: don't expect any of those measures to include a substantial pay increase,.....because it was pre-determined that pay is not a factor in the "pilot supply" conundrum).
And
2) If you get a response, at all from the ERAU media contact, it's likely to tell you to mind your own business because the findings of this particular Star Chamber are proprietary and double top-secret and that findings are disseminated on a "need to know" basis,........ (and you don't "need to know"!). If this brain trust wanted us to know what they talked about, they would have allowed media personnel to attend the event. You could always threaten to file a request under the "freedom of information act" since the event allegedly include public officials from the Whitehouse and the FAA, but I don't think that would initially scare the powerful media arm of Humpty Diddle Aeronautical University.
1) The link, in the original post, was to a press release from Embry Riddle. The media contact is listed as [email protected]. You could always send Mr. Roddey an email and ask him if he is willing to divulge the findings of this star-studded "board of inquiry" and ask what measures the airlines are likely to take in order to deal with the "pilot supply" issue, (hint: don't expect any of those measures to include a substantial pay increase,.....because it was pre-determined that pay is not a factor in the "pilot supply" conundrum).
And
2) If you get a response, at all from the ERAU media contact, it's likely to tell you to mind your own business because the findings of this particular Star Chamber are proprietary and double top-secret and that findings are disseminated on a "need to know" basis,........ (and you don't "need to know"!). If this brain trust wanted us to know what they talked about, they would have allowed media personnel to attend the event. You could always threaten to file a request under the "freedom of information act" since the event allegedly include public officials from the Whitehouse and the FAA, but I don't think that would initially scare the powerful media arm of Humpty Diddle Aeronautical University.
01-17-2015 | 10:08 PM
#133
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From: Captain
I just ended a 32 year career on Thursday, turned 65 and suddenly can't find my airplane keys!? Blood pressure 120/80, blood work good, still can bench 250, ride a bike for hours, but gotta take the bench.
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
01-18-2015 | 05:54 AM
#135
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From: May I swing the gear Von Admiral?
I just ended a 32 year career on Thursday, turned 65 and suddenly can't find my airplane keys!? Blood pressure 120/80, blood work good, still can bench 250, ride a bike for hours, but gotta take the bench.
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
01-18-2015 | 06:30 AM
#136
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Everyone knows there are AMEs out there that if you just pay the fee, they will figure a way to pass you.
01-18-2015 | 06:32 AM
#137
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From: Captain
I just ended a 32 year career on Thursday, turned 65 and suddenly can't find my airplane keys!? Blood pressure 120/80, blood work good, still can bench 250, ride a bike for hours, but gotta take the bench.
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
There is no shortage of pilots, the majors won't let it happen. DAL & UAL say they will park airplanes first. I have been hearing about pilot shortages since 1980, never happened. So for all you guys that have been sitting at the regionals in the left seat for say 5+ years, you'll find that you have too much PIC time and the major carriers will just go out and recruit kids out of college.
The airline industry wants button pushers anyway, not someone with stick skills, just remember Asiana, "Sum Ting Wong"!!!
01-18-2015 | 07:04 AM
#138
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If the airlines were smart (which they obviously are not) why would they not hire an older guy (say 45) instead of one that is 30? The older guy can't sit at the top of the seniority list more than 20 years while they are stuck with the 30 yo for 35 years drawing higher wages. You can replace that 45 yo much sooner with another 1st year FO pay a lot more frequently than you can the younger 'lifer'. Just asking...
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