To an extent its because that where the vote block is. If no one stayed there longer than 10 years than year 12 pay would be year ten. Your assuming year 5 would be the current year 5 not moving year 12 to year 5. The senior steps are created as a way for the largest vote block to give themselves raises the company wouldn't give to the whole group or at least a larger raise. Most trade labor is equal work equal pay. Its not mathematically imposable to crush a 12 year scale into a 2 year scale.

 

I didn't say it topped out at 20 years, I said a 45 yo pilot can't work more than 20 which means he can only make max pay for 8 years as opposed to a 25 yo who can make max pay for 28. Oh never mind

 

Yea but its a fluid contract. He would only make max pay in 12 years if the contract didn't change for 12 years. It would be poor planning to apply today's contract to your future self. Ask the guys who had pensions. If the company hired guys who could only ride out 8 years a their ceiling they would move that money farther down not saving the company a dime.
Remember it is possible for 70% of the labor group to be at year 12 and over thus protecting it, but 10 years from now 70% could be under 12 years with some growth. The pay always moves to where the votes are.

 

Makes sense to me.

 

Well, it's now been 7 days since they adjourned this meeting of the brain trust, charged with the responsibility of solving the "pilot supply" conundrum,......... and we haven't heard a peep from anyone regarding the stupendously insightful and nearly prophetic findings and solutions of this grand gathering of aviation industry titans and saviors.

Should I assume that the findings and recommendations of this blue ribboned, select panel of self-appointed aviation geniuses are sooo intricate and complex as to be "over my head" and that any attempt to educate the unwashed, (un-M.B.A.'ed) masses would simply be a waste of valuable time and resources? Or could we assume that there was no earth-shattering and/or groundbreaking revolations, other than the simplistic, wrong, and inappropriate, (but widely-held) belief that the only option to quell the "pilot supply" crisis is to immediately and substantially increase pay?

Oh, and by the way,...... the Embry Riddle media contact listed in the link from the original post has not responded to my email asking for information regarding the results/findings from the meeting. No "sorry, that's proprietary". No, "we plan to announce the findings by x date". No "go f____ yourself". Nothing.

 

I don't think there was any requirement to report what they decided to the public, just a need to make sure the public knows they had a summit and how worried they are that pilots will not work for peanuts any more, so the government gets the message and allows 250-hour wonders back into the right seat. Makes sense in a way because they knew the solution going in was to pay a lot more, they're not that stupid. The summit was on how to get the pilots without paying for them.

 

Am right with you Cub ��

 

Already happening! we call it codeshare.

 

I believe in serving markets you have the staff for, I never worry if some markets lose air service altogether. If the public desires air service they will pay for it. No free meals in this life or the after life!

 

Well, thanks for trying to find out!