XJT gone in 2018?
02-27-2015, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
From my understanding, the L-XJT side of the house is also a very classy operation and if we ever get the two sides under one roof, we will have one fantastic airline.
02-27-2015, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
I personally know several people that will give you the high brow and then unpolitely tell you how naive an full of crap this is. You ever wonder why Compass has up'd their hiring mins lately?
02-27-2015, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
And what certificate does Expressjet operate on? That's right EV. ASQ... ACEY.
Originally Posted by Urbandrone
That's L-XJT problem. Because ASA took the Expressjet name they have forgotten that the pilot group already put one company out of business, and that same pilot group is going to put another company out of business trying to prove you can put a square peg through a round hole.
What company was put out of business? The only way you can make a case of a pilot group putting a company out of business is if they strike for too long. And even then it's only arguable. This is all Skywest trying to put their whipsaw peg through our round hole. You can surrender and let them do it but resisting THEIR business plan is not what puts a company out of business. It's unbelievable that pilots will blame pilots when it's the CEO that is pitting his own employees against themselves so he and the shareholders can make a bit more money. Shameful.
Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
One gets the sense SGU is desperately trying to extricate themselves from the mess that is XJT. This isn't a dig at the pilots, I recognize SGU signed onto some pretty crappy deals. But they have a bad taste in their mouths and they just want out of the 145s and the headaches. Most people around here think ASA will continue to thrive and will be one of the last regionals standing. If I had to bet, SGU wants the money from XJT to canibalize the smaller regionals pilots and in a few years there will be just a very few regionals at all.
Let's get one thing straight, this xjt mess is all on Skywest and no one else. But I doubt they are desperate. Their plan is going working out in the long term.
Originally Posted by Maingear
Long story short-
As it stands now:
L-XJT - dead by 2018
L-ASA - Not dead in 2018 or in the foreseeable future.
It's not ASA vs XJT. It's just how the cards are falling. It's not political at the pilot group level.
As it stands now:
L-XJT - dead by 2018
L-ASA - Not dead in 2018 or in the foreseeable future.
It's not ASA vs XJT. It's just how the cards are falling. It's not political at the pilot group level.
Just to clarify, if LXJT is dead by the end of 2017 (which used to be 2020), then LASA is tentatively dead in 2022.
02-27-2015, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by air101
CPA...this was announced back in November.
"...SkyWest announced that ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., its wholly-owned subsidiary (“ExpressJet Airlines”), has executed an agreement with United Airlines, Inc. (“United”) to reduce the term of the existing 50-seat ERJ145 contract between ExpressJet and United from November 2020 to December 2017"
http://www.expressjet.com/wp-content...s-NOV-2014.pdf
"...SkyWest announced that ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., its wholly-owned subsidiary (“ExpressJet Airlines”), has executed an agreement with United Airlines, Inc. (“United”) to reduce the term of the existing 50-seat ERJ145 contract between ExpressJet and United from November 2020 to December 2017"
http://www.expressjet.com/wp-content...s-NOV-2014.pdf
02-27-2015, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
You're missing the point of the change of the CPA. It was initiated by xjt to renegotiate a higher fee per departure and reduce the term length of the agreement so even higher rates can be negotiated sooner. Not to accelerate the demise of lxjt.
If I was a betting man, I would say the United side has a stronger chance of survival than the Delta side. American... too soon to tell.
03-01-2015, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
You're missing the point of the change of the CPA. It was initiated by xjt to renegotiate a higher fee per departure and reduce the term length of the agreement so even higher rates can be negotiated sooner. Not to accelerate the demise of lxjt.
Absent United willing to pay more (which doesn't seem likely hence the transfer of aircraft to TSA) or any new contracts with larger aircraft (also unlikely due to scope) L-XJT, dies.
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