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Old 03-03-2015 | 06:39 PM
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Alrighty, ERJ ops done by 2018. So, uh...what we looking at - three more years and some change?

Was fun guys, good luck to you. At your attrition rates you'll all be at United before the operation shuts down anyway. #DontStress

Best case for this is you guys will upgrade at United before any current 7 year FO at ASA upgrades. Best thing that could happen for you. #EnjoyIt

Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
It's really not a copy of the DAL way since we don't have that relationship with them any more. It's the result of an industry-wide survey and data from aviation universities that do TEM studies as they relate to procedures and checklists.

In the end it'll be a vast improvement once the growing pains are over.
Spot on. I'm already finding it to be a vast improvement, but granted I've only flown with a Captain that actually took it seriously and cared enough to do his job to the same level most Captains expect their green First Officers to perform. It was refreshing honestly.

Quit complaining. We had two months to become "aware" of the change. Company did everything they could to build awareness and answer procedural questions. Either come along or head on home.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Wait till one of those guys shows up for the JS. Denied!
That's not going to sit well with the jumpseat coordinator
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Old 03-04-2015 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
That's not going to sit well with the jumpseat coordinator
I tell them the samething I always do! "Not really interested in you opinion on the matter!". Its spineless guys like you that are the problem with this profession. If your intimadaed by your union your hopeless.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
I tell them the samething I always do! "Not really interested in you opinion on the matter!". Its spineless guys like you that are the problem with this profession. If your intimadaed by your union your hopeless.
Internet tough guy! Watch out! Oh, and one that can't spell. I'm shaking.

By the way, those airplanes were gone regardless if TSA bid for them. Are you mad that a guy wanted to actually upgrade this decade and saw the sinking ship for what it was?
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Old 03-04-2015 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Wait till one of those guys shows up for the JS. Denied!
Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
I tell them the samething I always do! "Not really interested in you opinion on the matter!". Its spineless guys like you that are the problem with this profession. If your intimadaed by your union your hopeless.
I bet this guy isn't even a Captain, and therefore not in control of any jumpseats.

But if he is, I hope after he tells ALPA to eff off, he also remembers the section of our FOM that requires you to write a company report stating your reason for any jumpseat denial.

It would be a shame if some loose cannon internet tough guy got all ExpressJet pilots kicked off industry jumpseats. It's a good thing there are checks and balances to eliminate people who try these wildcat attacks.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
I tell them the samething I always do! "Not really interested in you opinion on the matter!". Its spineless guys like you that are the problem with this profession. If your intimadaed by your union your hopeless.
Yo Laquisha hold my drink while serve this tool.

Spineless guys.. Really? It's spineless guys like me, that walk up to the gate to make sure there are no pilots left behind. It's spineless guys like me that makes sure you have a seat on the plane so you can make it home to your family. So denying a jumpseat that isn't even yours, so you can feel better about yourself. It's actually spineless guys like yourself that is hurting this industry, backstabbing every pilot out there that is trying to make a living.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 11:46 AM
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OH DAYUM
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Old 03-04-2015 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Yo Laquisha hold my drink while serve this tool.

Spineless guys.. Really? It's spineless guys like me, that walk up to the gate to make sure there are no pilots left behind. It's spineless guys like me that makes sure you have a seat on the plane so you can make it home to your family. So denying a jumpseat that isn't even yours, so you can feel better about yourself. It's actually spineless guys like yourself that is hurting this industry, backstabbing every pilot out there that is trying to make a living.
I guess helping to staff your replacement flying at year 1 pay isn't hurting the industry
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Old 03-04-2015 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
I guess helping to staff your replacement flying at year 1 pay isn't hurting the industry
Did we take any concessions to receive these aircrafts?

At least we are not offering first year wages to former xjt guys but instead of a blended rate. But I see how this ties in with the jumpseat conversation at hand.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Did we take any concessions to receive these aircrafts?

At least we are not offering first year wages to former xjt guys but instead of a blended rate. But I see how this ties in with the jumpseat conversation at hand.
I just find it ironic that you said he is hurting the industry by denying the jumpseat. All of the flying that is being shifted around the regionals is getting staffed with a lot of 121 regional pilots from another airline. That is doing a ton of damage to regional pay.
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