Indeed; hiring contractors and issuing 1099s instead of having actual employees (with all their associated costs) is a GREAT way to keep labor expense down.

 

Trip Rig and min duty day. Look those up. Get your pilot group to negotiate those items. Maks the unproductive trips less appealing to the company and a financial hit.

Not sure why you are in this industry? Did you not understand how this worked when you were building all those hours to become an airline pilot? Did you never ask the question how am I paid and for what? Seriously, your lack of personal responsibility in this amazing.

 

Plain and simple....cognitive dissonance.....pilots are suckers lol

 

At least the girls admit they're *****s. More than we can say about ourselves.

 

Bingo!!!!!!

 

The fact that all non union scheduled airlines utilize the seniority system to hire pilots pretty well shows that it's a system that is in the best interests of management and not the union pilots. The problem with it at the regional level is the bottom end is drying up and the seniority model is designed to attract people at the bottom end while ignoring a potentially large pool of available pilots who are either sitting on the sidelines or working elsewhere but looking to make a lateral move.

Currently the only options an experienced regional pilot has for a lateral job move are Corporate, Asia or a non flying job.

(BTW it's generally not cool to hand out personal info about other members here if you happen to know them)

Except that it doesn't work that way anymore. Ticket prices don't follow that model either.

A 50 seat jet can actually be more efficient than a 150 seat jet on shorter routes, especially when loads are not going to fill that 150 seat jet. Pilots are a fixed cost but it doesn't mean that pilots need to be paid in proportion to the seats to make the jet profitable.

 

Except working at the railroad (I do) you make really good wages....have awesome medical...(I was at the ER the other day..it cost me NOTHING!) You also have a retirement pension..after collecting 360 credits a guy can retire and collect 5k a month...and his wife/significant other...gets half that in addition. So a married couple would be taking in 7k a month almost. the extra boards aren't that bad...I sit in an alternative wirk board...am on call 2 days a week and get 4800 to sit on my butt the rest of the week. The airlines are broken.....sad really.

 

Just in case you're wondering...the required experience for airline pilots are all exactly the same regardless of equipment. There is no difference in the skill or experience needed to be the first officer of a Boeing 777 or an Embraer 145.

1000 hours turbine? There is no such requirement. If there was it would be a massive chicken or the egg dilemma.

Corporate jobs generally do have higher experience requirements than any airline because they must answer to the highest authority of all, the insurance company, to which airlines are exempted.

That is the only (artificially created) reason why mainline can post artificial requirements.

The only reason major airlines hire from regional airlines is because they are there. It is in the mainline's best interest to encourage pilots to spend the first ten or fifteen years of their career there until they are a bit older. It's just a B scale for mainline. They can then hire older pilots who will likely not be there long enough to spend much time on twenty year pay (if they ever get there at all).

The regional B scale pay structure allows mainline to save massive amounts of money in pilot pay. This is why I keep saying that the regional airline system is bringing all pilot pay down, including mainline. That is why I spend time in these forums because talking to 20 year mainline veterans is like talking to a brick wall.

 

We have a few folks in their late 20s who each grossed over $160K last year. A solid healthcare plan is $400/month when purchased on the California insurance exchange. Also, they can deduct all sorts of expenses that salaried workers cannot, including commuting to our office.

I think our compensation is quite generous... Show me an airline pilot who pulls down that kind of money at that kind of age...

 

And your assumptions, and putting words into my mouth, are equally amazing.

I understood full well what I was getting into. I don't depend on this job to pay my bills. So I'm not complaining about the pay. I'm simply asking why the system is the way it is. Because it's an archaic set of rules that in no way corresponds with how the vast majority of modern compensation agreements are structured.