AWAC Exercises Option - Extends Thru Feb 2018
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Happy to hear that a pilot group with an industry leading contract is extending the life of their CPA. I hope you do well in contract negotiations.
Xjt was told the same thing in December 2013 when our concessionary TA came out.
Someone here already compiled a spreadsheet. I have to look for it and then I'll post.
Interesting perspective.....When PSA was told "accept the deal or be shut down" they did what they had to do. Similarly, Envoy said no to Parker twice before they got the "accept or we will shut you down" they accepted a flawed contract with no fleet size guarantee.
This is the Regional model. Accept it, get in and get out as soon as possible.
This is the Regional model. Accept it, get in and get out as soon as possible.
Xjt was told the same thing in December 2013 when our concessionary TA came out.
Someone here already compiled a spreadsheet. I have to look for it and then I'll post.
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#94
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I have friends from school that started at a couple other airlines at the same time that I did. We compare things occasionally, but we haven't really shared W2's. There are certainly some things to consider, like how much time is spent on reserve and your utilization while on reserve.
Hourly pay is an absolutely worthless variable from which to compare. There are too many outside factors that can change this greatly.
On a side note, what does AWAC pay during training (minimum? Per Diem? Average monthly income?)
Hourly pay is an absolutely worthless variable from which to compare. There are too many outside factors that can change this greatly.
On a side note, what does AWAC pay during training (minimum? Per Diem? Average monthly income?)
Training pay is a flat fee of $66.00 per day (before taxes) while in ground and sim training. IOE is paid at the first year FO rate at minimum guarantee. Single occupancy hotel during training.
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AWAC doesn't pay per diem in training IIRC. They "base" you in ATW while in training. Not sure how they are handling the different sim bases now, maybe you'll get per diem then. I remember my after tax pay my first year was $630 every two weeks not including uniform deduction.
Which brings up a note - as a new hire you must purchase a uniform. KEEP THE RECEIPT and when the next year rolls around you get your uniform bank filled. You can then expense the initial new hire uniform out of that bank.
(This was a decade ago...but) I remember my first 15th pay check on second year pay. It was so much money (around $2,100 after tax) I called my wife and said "you'll never guess how much they paid me...$2000!". "Wow..." she says. Thought we had hit it big. Haha.
Which brings up a note - as a new hire you must purchase a uniform. KEEP THE RECEIPT and when the next year rolls around you get your uniform bank filled. You can then expense the initial new hire uniform out of that bank.
(This was a decade ago...but) I remember my first 15th pay check on second year pay. It was so much money (around $2,100 after tax) I called my wife and said "you'll never guess how much they paid me...$2000!". "Wow..." she says. Thought we had hit it big. Haha.
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I interviewed and received an offer from AWAC two weeks ago. They provided us a document outlining training pay:
Training pay is a flat fee of $66.00 per day (before taxes) while in ground and sim training. IOE is paid at the first year FO rate at minimum guarantee. Single occupancy hotel during training.
Training pay is a flat fee of $66.00 per day (before taxes) while in ground and sim training. IOE is paid at the first year FO rate at minimum guarantee. Single occupancy hotel during training.
You should be paid about 68 and some change a day. Our long term training pay is 2.5hrs a day @ your current rate which is $27.23 now.
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From: Slightly less broke side of RJ
that's where the 67 number comes from, no per diem in ground because you're based in ATW, once you get to sims you'll have a base so you'll get per diem. IIRC
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training in ATW 4 weeks. 2 weeks indoc, 2 weeks systems, 3 tests. get paid during training the monthly guarantee. final day after systems test you are taken down to MKE to mx hanger and do your walk around and stuff. next day you are free to jumpseat/ nonrev home from MKE. hotel is downtown ATW, nice place and plenty of watering holes nearby and good food around, plenty to do, you can rent a car for $15 a day an go down to oshkosh or up to to green bay for the afternoon on the weekend. single occupancy, sims are in CVG, very few go to CLT. junior guys get about 2 weeks off. senior guys just a few days. stressful but fun time.
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Monday-Friday. 8 to about 4-5 depending on how much has to be covered. Sometimes you can out earlier but typically vans come at 4 in average. Khakis, polo/button down. First day you needed a suit.
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