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Old 08-04-2015 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by outaluckagain
No kidding!! There is nothing that is ever going to happen that will cause airlines to come to that level.

They may of course stop hiring the regional guys to keep them there as long as they can. Maybe start a major airline MPL program to get around depleting their regional staffing.
I don't think that will happen either. They need regional pilots, and unless something changes, they won't have any. They need to make being a regional pilot more attractive. Unless the pay rates increase dramatically, prospective pilots will continue to pick IT and Environmental courses of study and make 5x as much as a career starting in the regionals. Things have to change, the current model is unsustainable. I see majors stapling regional seniority lists to the bottom of their own before I see excluding regional pilots from their hiring pool.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 10:10 PM
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That's too bad. The Republic E170 product is much better than the CRJ. I would've thought for such a high value airport they would've used the 170's.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Better product? Have you seen Republic's flight attendants?!?!?!
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Old 08-04-2015 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname
I don't think that will happen either. They need regional pilots, and unless something changes, they won't have any. They need to make being a regional pilot more attractive. Unless the pay rates increase dramatically, prospective pilots will continue to pick IT and Environmental courses of study and make 5x as much as a career starting in the regionals. Things have to change, the current model is unsustainable. I see majors stapling regional seniority lists to the bottom of their own before I see excluding regional pilots from their hiring pool.
A stapling is quite possible. Imagine how long that would take to move up to a B737. Almost funnier than a flow.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 11:01 PM
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Right now a pilot might get hired on at a regional at age 30, then make it to a major at 35. He starts over at year 1 pay. If they stapled on seniority lists and flew RJ's at the same rates, he'd be at year 5 pay by 35. Sadly that's a significant incentive to keep the companies separate.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Right now a pilot might get hired on at a regional at age 30, then make it to a major at 35. He starts over at year 1 pay. If they stapled on seniority lists and flew RJ's at the same rates, he'd be at year 5 pay by 35. Sadly that's a significant incentive to keep the companies separate.
I'm 23 and plan at being at a major by 27. Someone in my new hire class was 21. What numbers are you looking at.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DSRoss996
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Better product? Have you seen Republic's flight attendants?!?!?!
What about them?
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Old 08-04-2015 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rmk1991
I'm 23 and plan at being at a major by 27. Someone in my new hire class was 21. What numbers are you looking at.
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Old 08-05-2015 | 04:59 AM
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Gain of -35 in the month of July according to the seniority list. And thats a conservative #, its actually -40+. Hows that lbfo workin out for ya bedford
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Old 08-05-2015 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by basesjuiced
Gain of -35 in the month of July according to the seniority list. And thats a conservative #, its actually -40+. Hows that lbfo workin out for ya bedford
How many were hired? That will give you your net amount of loss. Lose 40 (or gain of -40 as you like to say...) But hire 20 has a net loss of only 20.

Still a net loss of 20 (gain of -20) is still significant. Using ball park number of 10 pilots per airplane that's 2 more airplanes that cannot be staffed and that number has been stead for about a year.

Don't the 50 UAL airplanes start this month? BB better buy stock in unicorns and glitter.
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Old 08-05-2015 | 06:41 AM
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No thats a net gain, not total # of people who quit. According to the seniority list, 52 quit in July and only 17 were hired. But 52 isn't accurate, its closer to 60.
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