Wheels falling off at RAH
10-23-2015 | 11:30 AM
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My prediction is within the next year or two you will see a major softening of the 1500hr rule. You'll see it knocked down to something like 500 hours in leiu of 16 Sim sessions and minimum 100% hours of ioe. The crisis is beginning and the government won't sit on their hands and watch the nations airlines crumble.
10-23-2015 | 11:46 AM
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10-23-2015 | 12:02 PM
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Based on my totally non-scientific poll, forum members are thinking it will pass. Will watch to see how it develops as more votes come in.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...oing-pass.html
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...oing-pass.html
Indoc to the union hall so they may pay their first three months of dues and then be eligible to vote.
What do you think? It will pass.
10-23-2015 | 12:05 PM
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10-23-2015 | 02:20 PM
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10-23-2015 | 04:10 PM
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It's kind of like the people and politicians who fight for $15 an hour starting wages at Burger King: that's NOT what those jobs are for! That's a job you work while in high school/early college to get some money for gas/beer /tail.
Same with RAH, it was never intended to be a destination.
Why do you folks keep saying it's a stepping stone, yet want "jetblue" wages/rules? This makes no sense other than the fact that you all want to have your cake and eat it too.
With that being said, how am i "selling out future generations" by voting YES on a ta that has MORE pay, BETTER work rules etc??
Answer me that! Get over the whole "workers paradise" thing, iow grow up. This raise will help a lot of people including "future generations".
Those college professors did a number on you!
Same with RAH, it was never intended to be a destination.
Why do you folks keep saying it's a stepping stone, yet want "jetblue" wages/rules? This makes no sense other than the fact that you all want to have your cake and eat it too.
With that being said, how am i "selling out future generations" by voting YES on a ta that has MORE pay, BETTER work rules etc??
Answer me that! Get over the whole "workers paradise" thing, iow grow up. This raise will help a lot of people including "future generations".
Those college professors did a number on you!
2. Ask any economist and they'll tell you the minimum wage needs to come up. I think data is pretty clear on minimum wage.
3. The pay in this TA is WORSE than 2003 for over half the pilots. Each CA is voting themselves a pay cut relative to their buying power. The THIRD paycut in a row since 1998. It's not my problem you don't have the fortitude to stick it out and fight for your 1998 buying power.
4. I don't believe in a stepping stone business model. Eventually they will all die. If no one cares about making the business last because no one is staying; it's a sham. It's like asking Burger King customers to clean the bathroom and floors. Not going to happen.
5. This TA removes all future leverage. RAH can pay anything they want to people not on property. If you think 8.5 years is a long time to negotiate, wait till they can pay college kids 100K to come to Republic. It's still cheaper than paying pilots on property and it keeps seats filled. This will be the last CBA Republic pilots ever see. It's ok though I won't be here to worry about it but I'm voting "no" because I have a little more foresight/fortitude than the vote in the regionals generation. Regardless of the future, the TA has crap work rules and no solid language.
10-23-2015 | 05:25 PM
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10-23-2015 | 07:12 PM
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The society we live in has to have winners and losers because not everybody can win. People's lives are mostly left up to chance, whether it be intellectual ability, environment they grow up in etc.
You and I are lucky to have been able to do what we're doing. Maybe you think you got here because you're so awesome and worked so hard but that's not what most people have to do.
Look who has to work at Burger King now, it's not just high school kids... it's not a temporary job anymore for a lot of people... there aren't that many jobs to go around because the middle class is being assaulted.
You're awesome though because you don't work at burger king, you'd rather have the government have to help these people survive than force burger king to, sure whatever.
You and I are lucky to have been able to do what we're doing. Maybe you think you got here because you're so awesome and worked so hard but that's not what most people have to do.
Look who has to work at Burger King now, it's not just high school kids... it's not a temporary job anymore for a lot of people... there aren't that many jobs to go around because the middle class is being assaulted.
You're awesome though because you don't work at burger king, you'd rather have the government have to help these people survive than force burger king to, sure whatever.
In the early 1900's something ridiculous like 1 out of EVERY 8 jobs belonged to telephone operators(in the private sector). Most on this board might ask "what's a telephone operator? ?"
Technology changes as does the job market. Adapt or die. This applies to both the company AND the worker.
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