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Old 05-27-2015 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by block30
Wow. So negotiations are that bad huh? At this point I would think the pilot group asking for the moon may not be unreasonable...because hey- it's that or what? Dissolution of RAH?

That may be exactly where RAH is headed. Management has taken the stance theyd rather go out of business than pay pilots. You just cant fix stupid.
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Old 05-27-2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FEtoFO
RAHCONTRACTNOW should be back up soon. Should be some good info to counterbalance the company's propaganda


Btw 4 new-hires from January have been removed from the seniority list. Trouble during IOE?
Ohhhhhh. It's going to be back up soon.... what a difference.

When is the strike vote? Ahhhhhh never????

The new website should be called, "Shut it down now, and park every single aircraft!"

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Old 05-27-2015 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
That may be exactly where RAH is headed. Management has taken the stance theyd rather go out of business than pay pilots. You just cant fix stupid.
This is just unreal to watch from the cheap seats. Management does realize that each that goes by means more expense and effort to turn the ship around right? At some point you can reach the point of no return due to all the damage done...? Is RAH being sued for breach of contract for dropping too many flights?
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Old 05-27-2015 | 06:41 PM
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No, they are playing you guys for fools. They have the aircraft orders and you guys have to call their bluff. You'll be flying for peanuts until the strike vote comes along. You guys have the weakest union on the history of the planet!!! Period.
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Old 05-27-2015 | 06:47 PM
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You guys should study Carl Marx. And pay attention to exactly what he's saying.
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Old 05-27-2015 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
You guys should study Carl Marx. And pay attention to exactly what he's saying.
Is he related to Karl or Richard?
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Old 05-27-2015 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
No, they are playing you guys for fools. They have the aircraft orders and you guys have to call their bluff. You'll be flying for peanuts until the strike vote comes along. You guys have the weakest union on the history of the planet!!! Period.
Lol... you must be new at this airline thing! I suggest you read up on the railway labor act and also the Flying The Line series. I'm certainly not taking up for the Teamsters, because I think they are huge crooks. The real problem is with the RLA, and the refusal of the NMB to do their job! Also it doesn't help that we still have newhires showing up to work here!
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Old 05-27-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
No, they are playing you guys for fools. They have the aircraft orders and you guys have to call their bluff. You'll be flying for peanuts until the strike vote comes along. You guys have the weakest union on the history of the planet!!! Period.
We did have a strike vote about a year ago. The NMB created a new term. They put us "on ice". I can't disagree with you about the IBT being the most weak dicked Union on the planet.

And aircraft orders don't mean jack **** until it's parked at a gate with my ass sitting in it. They can always be cancelled, sold or subleased.
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Old 05-27-2015 | 08:24 PM
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Im the last guy to cheer on the teamsters, but what is the alternative? The last regional to strike was comair in the late 90s. ALPA just went on a concession spree across the regional industry. The bottom line is regional pilots are screwed due to the NMB. Even in the face of failure and an enormous pilot shortage at this level, management has successfully stalled negotiations at some carriers while forcing concessions at others. This goes completely against every business and market principle there is. Its artificial and facilitated by our inept govenrment giving these money drunk executives all the power.
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Old 05-28-2015 | 02:35 AM
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Regional pilots are screwed because they are wimps. The RLA applies to mainline but those pilot have the balls to fly safe and do what's needed to force the company's hand. Regional pilots ***** and moan about pay then vote in concessions. Who's fault is that? The NMB? I don't think so...
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