Makes sense I guess, especially since they are on the IMSL.

 

Unclear if it's literally 6 guys, but there are a handfull of furloughed Midwest guys that came to F9 (pre-IMSL implementation) that are suing for their seniority.

I know that all the RAH guys that went to F9 during that period were forced to interview for the position and resign their seniority number. With that said, I don't know what the Midwest guys did to get hired at that time.

 

Actually you did. During the negotiations with Southwest the F9 guys wanted final approval of the seniority list. The bankruptcy judge rightfully thought that was foolish. Subsequent negotiations failed to reach an agreement even though many guys at F9 already had apps at Southwest (including pilots in the negotiating room) . Southwest then moved on to AirTran and F9 got RAH. Moral of the story, the one time F9 guys actually chose to fight for themselves they shouldn't have.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth. The only guys at RAH I know that could possibly want to work for F9 must have never been a part of the DEN operation. If they had seen just how miserable the experience was perhaps F9 wouldn't have to worry about the "hire or not to hire" situation of Republic guys because nobody would likely even apply. I know it was also a two way street and a lot of RAH guys acted like wild ape's as well.

If it is of any value, the number of RAH guys getting hired at United are incredibly favorable and promising. I recall Delta was also hiring a ton of RAH guys before I left. Hopefully that trend continues so the good guys of RAH can find a home with a good airline.

 

RAHCONTRACTNOW should be back up soon. Should be some good info to counterbalance the company's propaganda


Btw 4 new-hires from January have been removed from the seniority list. Trouble during IOE?

 

Not true, WN truly had no intention of buying F9. All WN wanted was to get a good look at their books before massively expanding into the DEN market. Pure brilliance on their part.
As for AirTran, WN was waiting to buy them. They had same fleet (737) and already had plans to axe the 717's. Frontier has no common type (all Airbus).

 

Really don't want to argue but the "peak at the books" argument makes no sense. The books were more or less public record (F9 was in bankruptcy). If a company based in Denver could not make the market work why would Southwest take their business cues off that company? The "peek at the books" argument is made by pilots that refuse to acknowledge an undeniable truth: they squandered an excellent opportunity because of greed.

Also, why expand into Denver if you can cheaply aquire a "hometown company" that owns the most lucrative gates in that market? I couldn't have been that expensive, a regional bought them.

Southwest's CEO has publicly stated they have no problem being a two airframe fleet. They just had no need for a smaller airframe like the 717 (especially when Delta wanted them so badly).

Furthermore, if it was the intention of Southwest they could have quickly aquired F9 and slowly phased in the 737 while leasing/selling the extremely popular airframe that F9 already owned (exactly what they did with AirTran). Seemless.

The F9 drivers hosed themselves.

Ironically, Republic sold F9 to Inidgo for less than what Southwest offered to purchase them outright.

History sucks when it makes you look like a fool.

 

Sound logic, but: yes the balance sheets...etc are public info, but southwest was looking to find out which specific routes/markets were their most profitable, load factors...etc and those are the ones southwest opened first

 

Kind of funny that Johnny O at MESA got spanked for doing the exact same thing.

Aloha Airlines sues Mesa Air Group - Pacific Business News

 

Wow. So negotiations are that bad huh? At this point I would think the pilot group asking for the moon may not be unreasonable...because hey- it's that or what? Dissolution of RAH?