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Old 06-01-2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
But not due to lack of crews. That would be due to the company's refusal to stay organized and fix broken airplanes.
So situation normal?

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Old 06-01-2015 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
Christian churches have not been attacked and had their members gunned down by enraged individuals.
Expect for, you know, all the jihadists and stuff that hijacked those airplanes and crashed them into buildings, went all Ala Akbar at Fort Hood, beheaded a random women in OK, run down people in Canada, bomb subways and trains, attempted to bomb Time Square and other flights, but that's doesn't count.
Let's contrast the "persecution" in the predominantly Christian/Secular nations versus Islamic nations shall we? Here: have a small group of politically incorrect folks ignorantly associate your religious practices and apparel to those who commit jihad, and you get told mean things or get removed from a flight, then sue the individual or airline. There: have your church burned, your wife and daughters sold, you lined up and beheaded or falsely imprisoned. Very similar, tough life for a Muslim living in the West.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Expect for, you know, all the jihadists and stuff that hijacked those airplanes and crashed them into buildings, went all Ala Akbar at Fort Hood, beheaded a random women in OK, run down people in Canada, bomb subways and trains, attempted to bomb Time Square and other flights, but that's doesn't count.
Let's contrast the "persecution" in the predominantly Christian/Secular nations versus Islamic nations shall we? Here: have a small group of politically incorrect folks ignorantly associate your religious practices and apparel to those who commit jihad, and you get told mean things or get removed from a flight, then sue the individual or airline. There: have your church burned, your wife and daughters sold, you lined up and beheaded or falsely imprisoned. Very similar, tough life for a Muslim living in the West.
Ha! Must be your latest comedy routine. That is funny! Just because there is persecution in another country doesn't give you the right to persecute by proxy. This isn't the home of the free as long as you are a WASP.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Ha! Must be your latest comedy routine. That is funny! Just because there is persecution in another country doesn't give you the right to persecute by proxy. This isn't the home of the free as long as you are a WASP.
What??
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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
What really bothers me is how she said the other passenger reacted. It's sad and a little frightening...
What really bothers me is how some people will believe anything they're told by jihadists. It's sad and more than a little frightening...

Ahmad’s claims of discrimination have not been corroborated by any passengers, and United Airlines rejects that any wrongdoing or acts of discrimination occurred. United Airlines released a statement that the flight attendant “attempted several times to accommodate Ms. Ahmad’s beverage request.”
'Diet Coke' Muslim Discrimination Passenger Has Ties to Radical Imams

In 2013, she recited the Quran at the annual ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) convention. Declassified FBI documents found that the Bureau regards ISNA as a Muslim Brotherhood front group. The FBI also found that ISNA was founded by prominent members of the global Muslim Brotherhood organization. Ahmad’s bio states that she has “supported leadership for premier Muslim organizations including [ISNA].”

Although she has an extensive record of supporting radical Islamist groups, Ahmad was recognized by the Obama White House as a leading “Muslim female in the United States,” according to a release from (Northwestern University). She is a frequent Ramadan dinner attendee at the White House, according to the report.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Ha! Must be your latest comedy routine. That is funny! Just because there is persecution in another country doesn't give you the right to persecute by proxy.
What is sad is how some people equate denying a person a can of coke with beheading people, and they think it's "funny". Reminds me of the movie "Idiocracy".

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If your answer is no to any of those questions then you have no right demanding an apology from any American Muslim.
Utter poppycock and pure pablum, esp. given FBI documents detailing the ties to known terrorist organizations.

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Breezy, you need a break from these forums man.
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
I should know better than to write a response......

In short, in the West you don't hear of many speaking in defence of other religions, particularly the dominant one, because they don't really need defending.They are not being persecuted/discriminated against due to their religion.
You should've gone with that original instinct, because your conclusion is ridiculous, wrong, and very well documented. Leftists make sport of persecuting Christians in America. Just look at their attacks on everything "Christmas", up to and including being "offended" by folks trying to wish them a simple "Merry Christmas". Go sell this pablum somewhere else.

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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
What really bothers me is how some people will believe anything they're told by jihadists. It's sad and more than a little frightening...



'Diet Coke' Muslim Discrimination Passenger Has Ties to Radical Imams



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What is sad is how some people equate denying a person a can of coke with beheading people, and they think it's "funny". Reminds me of the movie "Idiocracy".
No, what's sad is that someone compared denying someone a can of coke to beheading someone. The post was meant to illustrate how that comparison was so ridiculous that it was comical.

Please stop quoting Breitbart as a credible news source. That rubbish disguised as news could link you to extremists with enough tinfoil.

United has admitted that a misunderstanding has occurred unlike what was quoted above. They denied discrimination like any corporation because if they admitted their policies were discriminatory, they'd be held financially liable.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:34 PM
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Funny how FBI documents and public statements by American corporations mean nothing to folks like you, Breezy, when they don't fit your political ideology and rhetoric. Send me a PM when you defend Christians with the same passion, will ya? I won't be holding my breath.

Originally Posted by CBreezy
Please stop quoting Breitbart as a credible news source. That rubbish disguised as news could link you to extremists with enough tinfoil.
What part of this don't you understand?

United Airlines released a statement that the flight attendant “attempted several times to accommodate Ms. Ahmad’s beverage request.”
Please stop with your politically correct-inspired hysteria.

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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Funny how FBI documents and public statements by American corporations mean nothing to folks like you, Breezy, when they don't fit your political ideology and rhetoric. Send me a PM when you defend Christians with the same passion, will ya? I won't be holding my breath.



What part of this don't you understand?



Please stop with your politically correct-inspired hysteria.
^^^ well said Sayalt- Breezy is hot air
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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Funny how FBI documents mean nothing to folks like you, Breezy, when they don't fit your political ideology and rhetoric. Send me a PM when you defend Christians with the same passion, will ya? I won't be holding my breath.
I'll defend anyone being discriminated against. I don't care about FBI documents that aren't used in a court of law. Just because someone has an FBI file, it doesn't mean giving them a can of coke is a threat to national security. There is no policy at any airline or any documented threat to air crew related to Coke Zero. Even if she had a burning American flag pin, it isn't any reason to deny her service that is afforded to all other paying passengers. I don't care if she is a Jihadist, a Priest kid toucher, or a cop killer. She was not posing a threat to the a/c nor is tweeting to United something about poor service a very "death to America" thing to do.

Stop trying to spin this as a Christian versus Muslim debate. This is about some poorly informed and possibly bigoted FA denying service based on some poorly conceived belief that a Muslim was going to use a can of soda to break through the cockpit door. She had no knowledge of any FBI documents and even those documents are irrelevant. Speaking at a conference with possible ties to radical Islam does not make you a terrorist nor does it give you the right to deny service. You are not the judge or jury.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 04:03 PM
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This really isn't the thread for this type of discussion. You're gonna get everyone all fired up. I wanna hear about Bedford being held accountable for being a charlatan...and just an overall disgrace.
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