Wheels falling off at RAH
06-01-2015 | 08:10 PM
#501
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THIS:
and THIS:
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
I should know better than to write a response......but humans while clever, are seldom wise.
I think you are wrong in that many people of conscience ("liberals" if you prefer) treat different religions differently. There may be an appearance of this due to those who practice certain religions needing their safety,freedoms, and dignity protected more so than other religions. For some years now, that religion has been Islam.
In spite of what some pundits and fear mongers say, there is no discrimination or serious backlash against those who practice their Christian religion. A woman dressed in garb we would associate with,say, the Mennonites, would not be refused a full can of coke with the statement that she could use it as a weapon. She would not be told by a fellow passenger "shut the **** up, Christian."
There has been no legislation attempted to limit the number of Christian churches.
Individuals/groups have not been booted off aircraft due to speaking/praying a foreign "Christian language" and making other pax nervous.
Christian churches have not been attacked and had their members gunned down by enraged individuals. ( the incident I am thinking of was actually a Sikh temple, not an Islamic mosque, but I gathered that to the perpetrator they were close enough...brown skin, turbans(ragheads ya know) and talked funny)
I have not heard of one instance in North America where an individual was murdered because he either was, or looked, Christian.
I know of no instance where a flight was canceled due to cabin crew concerns regarding a written letter in a foreign language found in the seat pocket that looked "Christian"
Etcetera, etcetera.
In short, in the West you don't hear of many speaking in defence of other religions, particularly the dominant one, because they don't really need defending.They are not being persecuted/discriminated against due to their religion.
Muslims are.
I think you are wrong in that many people of conscience ("liberals" if you prefer) treat different religions differently. There may be an appearance of this due to those who practice certain religions needing their safety,freedoms, and dignity protected more so than other religions. For some years now, that religion has been Islam.
In spite of what some pundits and fear mongers say, there is no discrimination or serious backlash against those who practice their Christian religion. A woman dressed in garb we would associate with,say, the Mennonites, would not be refused a full can of coke with the statement that she could use it as a weapon. She would not be told by a fellow passenger "shut the **** up, Christian."
There has been no legislation attempted to limit the number of Christian churches.
Individuals/groups have not been booted off aircraft due to speaking/praying a foreign "Christian language" and making other pax nervous.
Christian churches have not been attacked and had their members gunned down by enraged individuals. ( the incident I am thinking of was actually a Sikh temple, not an Islamic mosque, but I gathered that to the perpetrator they were close enough...brown skin, turbans(ragheads ya know) and talked funny)
I have not heard of one instance in North America where an individual was murdered because he either was, or looked, Christian.
I know of no instance where a flight was canceled due to cabin crew concerns regarding a written letter in a foreign language found in the seat pocket that looked "Christian"
Etcetera, etcetera.
In short, in the West you don't hear of many speaking in defence of other religions, particularly the dominant one, because they don't really need defending.They are not being persecuted/discriminated against due to their religion.
Muslims are.
I'll defend anyone being discriminated against. I don't care about FBI documents that aren't used in a court of law. Just because someone has an FBI file, it doesn't mean giving them a can of coke is a threat to national security. There is no policy at any airline or any documented threat to air crew related to Coke Zero. Even if she had a burning American flag pin, it isn't any reason to deny her service that is afforded to all other paying passengers. I don't care if she is a Jihadist, a Priest kid toucher, or a cop killer. She was not posing a threat to the a/c nor is tweeting to United something about poor service a very "death to America" thing to do.
Stop trying to spin this as a Christian versus Muslim debate. This is about some poorly informed and possibly bigoted FA denying service based on some poorly conceived belief that a Muslim was going to use a can of soda to break through the cockpit door. She had no knowledge of any FBI documents and even those documents are irrelevant. Speaking at a conference with possible ties to radical Islam does not make you a terrorist nor does it give you the right to deny service. You are not the judge or jury.
Stop trying to spin this as a Christian versus Muslim debate. This is about some poorly informed and possibly bigoted FA denying service based on some poorly conceived belief that a Muslim was going to use a can of soda to break through the cockpit door. She had no knowledge of any FBI documents and even those documents are irrelevant. Speaking at a conference with possible ties to radical Islam does not make you a terrorist nor does it give you the right to deny service. You are not the judge or jury.
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
Last edited by Cyborgmudhen; 06-01-2015 at 08:25 PM.
06-02-2015 | 12:54 AM
#502
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Right. You don't care about any facts if it goes against your "politically-correct" ideology. You've made that abundantly clear, even if it's a child molester or cop killer, as YOU said. Facts like...
...and yet you simply take her word for it. Truth is, you don't care about facts....even if they are cop killers....you really only care about your leftist, politically-correct inspired, melodramatic narrative.
Neither are you, so stop acting like one and take your own advice.
...and yet you simply take her word for it. Truth is, you don't care about facts....even if they are cop killers....you really only care about your leftist, politically-correct inspired, melodramatic narrative.
Neither are you, so stop acting like one and take your own advice.
06-02-2015 | 02:29 AM
#503
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THIS:
and THIS:
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
and THIS:
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
I see the world as it really is. However, big words from a small person just proves your Napoleon complex is alive and well. If you can't take people expressing their opinions maybe the internet isn't the place for you!
06-02-2015 | 06:14 AM
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Do you not understand the definition of the word? I'll bet you're the type that uses the word "literally" a lot in your conversations, huh?
Anyway, I have spoken with people truly in the know on this incident (read: not a bunch of PC keyboard comandos) and I can tell you that this woman's story is just that; a story designed to make the news.
06-02-2015 | 07:35 AM
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No one here is arguing about religion. The issue is a known "American" associate of terrorist organizations (according to the FBI) attempting to make a false claim of discrimination against an airline (no other passengers are backing her story) and her shame-mongering, politically correct driven water-carriers spewing their vomitous blather while trying to justify it (and her) by saying things like "I don't care if it was a child molestor or a cop killer".
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because like RAH the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too (not only here in America but all over the world), the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about that fact, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's accusation of discrimination is.
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because like RAH the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too (not only here in America but all over the world), the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about that fact, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's accusation of discrimination is.
Last edited by SayAlt; 06-02-2015 at 07:50 AM.
06-02-2015 | 07:56 AM
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No one here is arguing about religion. The issue is a known "American" associate of terrorist organizations (according to the FBI) attempting to make a false claim of discrimination against an airline (no other passengers are backing her story) and her shame-mongering, politically correct driven water-carriers spewing their vomitous blather while trying to justify it (and her) by saying things like "I don't care if it was a child molestor or a cop killer".
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because like RAH the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too (not only here in America but all over the world), the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about that fact, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's accusation of discrimination is.
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because like RAH the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too (not only here in America but all over the world), the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about that fact, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's accusation of discrimination is.
06-02-2015 | 07:59 AM
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No one here is arguing about religion. The issue is a known "American" associate of terrorist organizations (according to the FBI) attempting to make a false claim of discrimination against an airline (no other passengers are backing her story) and her shame-mongering, politically correct driven water-carriers spewing their vomitous blather while trying to justify it (and her) by saying things like "I don't care if it was a child molestor or a cop killer".
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too, not only here in America but all over the world, the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about it all, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's claims are.
I suspect this has become a part of this thread because the wheels are falling off the leftist PC agenda too, not only here in America but all over the world, the lemmings that support it are more than a little upset about it all, and this non-issue of a straw man is their way of crying that they and their ideology aren't as bankrupt as this woman's claims are.
We all know people exaggerate when dealing with customer service. I see it every day. Even if the FA made it up that it could be used as a weapon as a way to get her to back off instead of saying it's against policy like some FAs do with roll-a-boards when it might fit but isn't unauthorized, the response on here and of the conservatives have been wholly inappropriate. The point is, you cannot deny someone services that are being given to others based on gender, race, creed or orientation. You say she had known associations with terrorist organizations yet made no threat to that flight. If she had, you better believe there'd be eyewitnesses and video. She wasn't on a no-fly list or perceived as a threat by homeland security. Any FBI or CIA or any other "proof" that comes out after the fact are completely irrelevant as no one on the crew had knowledge of them.
If she was a whiny passenger that is exaggerating to get a free flight, let's all ignore her like we always do. Let's not loosely condemn her for being a terrorist solely because she's a Muslim and asked for a soda.
06-02-2015 | 08:21 AM
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THIS:
and THIS:
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
and THIS:
Bigots: read carefully:
Lost to many is that you'd rather feel than think.
If feels far better to the cowardice born of your mental lethargy to casually hate. Critical thought, introspection, and observation of values like human dignity and respect simply get in the way of any portion of a narrative that allows you to feel better, regardless of the cost to others. It puts you in some fairly interesting positions, actually; like that of defending the notion that a small woman who prays to Allah, given a pop tab, is credible enough of a threat for you get worked up over.
Your manhood called.....said it ain't coming back until you grow the f$#k up.
Dismissed.
<drops the mic>
06-02-2015 | 09:55 AM
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One of the most interesting things in the human race is that we are not pre programmed are are not robots. Everyone sees things differently and has different fears based on their experience in life. To say everyone should react the same to every different situation like we are all out of the same cookie cutter mold is naive at best. I'm not saying I agree with the action taken. I'm just saying that life isn't always black and white. People tend to forget about the gray in the middle.
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