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Old 09-10-2016, 09:06 PM
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:01 AM
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Call me crazy, but why not try a company like Atlas that will home base you? Yes, you may be gone for 16, 17 days, but all of your time off is consecutive. When you are home, you can actually do stuff. And I am sure the 747 time would look even better to United, if you even wanted to switch still.
I'd be cautious about jumping to Atlas for the type rating. We don't award points by aircraft type through the application scoring process. Even if we did, the -400 is a dying fleet that no future no hires would touch before it's gone on 2018. However, the experiences and challenges faced at an ACMI would likely be beneficial to talk about in the interview process. However there still remains that issue of getting the call to interview.

On a side note, I'm really amazed to see many experienced pilots ready to jump from a ULCC or a foreign carrier to the likes of Commutair in hopes of getting through the CPP. I don't know what to make of it... Impatiences or a tactical career gamble?
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:35 AM
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I'd be cautious about jumping to Atlas for the type rating. We don't award points by aircraft type through the application scoring process. Even if we did, the -400 is a dying fleet that no future no hires would touch before it's gone on 2018. However, the experiences and challenges faced at an ACMI would likely be beneficial to talk about in the interview process. However there still remains that issue of getting the call to interview.

On a side note, I'm really amazed to see many experienced pilots ready to jump from a ULCC or a foreign carrier to the likes of Commutair in hopes of getting through the CPP. I don't know what to make of it... Impatiences or a tactical career gamble?
Perhaps you should dump the algorithms, and computer firewall and just hire the pilots with experience? Obviously something is wrong if experienced people feel a need to downgrade their job to get through to you for an interview?
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:01 AM
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Perhaps you should dump the algorithms, and computer firewall and just hire the pilots with experience? Obviously something is wrong if experienced people feel a need to downgrade their job to get through to you for an interview?
I would love to see that become the norm. But you and I both know HR departments will never let that happen.

My personal perspective is that the CPP stuff at United only hurts the qualified off the street candidates even more than before. Every seat at United given to a CPP makes it that much harder for an off the street pilot. I know the numbers taken up by CPP's aren't huge, but it still has a negative impact on all of those 10-15 year 121 RJ captain's, corporate pilots, ULCC, etc.

Now because of this little recruitment incentive, many pilots I know are getting anxious and ready to make a huge career gamble and move to C5. I keep telling them to hold off and be patient, but it wasn't too long ago that I was in there shoes getting frustrated. We hired much fewer pilots than planned this year due to next years decreased growth plans and our training center consolidation. Now that things are going to stabilize again with hiring, I'm really hoping the numbers stay high and all the qualified guys fighting to get on here will get the call without having to start over at a regional. Regardless of how anyone gets here, it will be worth the struggle and we will all welcome you with open arms.
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I would love to see that become the norm. But you and I both know HR departments will never let that happen.

My personal perspective is that the CPP stuff at United only hurts the qualified off the street candidates even more than before. Every seat at United given to a CPP makes it that much harder for an off the street pilot. I know the numbers taken up by CPP's aren't huge, but it still has a negative impact on all of those 10-15 year 121 RJ captain's, corporate pilots, ULCC, etc.

Now because of this little recruitment incentive, many pilots I know are getting anxious and ready to make a huge career gamble and move to C5. I keep telling them to hold off and be patient, but it wasn't too long ago that I was in there shoes getting frustrated. We hired much fewer pilots than planned this year due to next years decreased growth plans and our training center consolidation. Now that things are going to stabilize again with hiring, I'm really hoping the numbers stay high and all the qualified guys fighting to get on here will get the call without having to start over at a regional. Regardless of how anyone gets here, it will be worth the struggle and we will all welcome you with open arms.
Five years from now, perhaps the HR folks will go back to their original jobs of being paper pushers, and more hiring will be done over the telephones with sign on bonuses. In the mean time, everyone trying to get in will lose out on hundreds of thousands of dollars in retirements and pay while this computer firewall experiment plays out. Yes, let silicone valley decide on who to hire rather than the pilots. Sounds brilliant! The sooner the regionals get drained of pilots, the better for everyone!
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:32 AM
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What is the current success rate for an applicant after the United Interview in complete?
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