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Skywest dropping Delta (200/700/900/175) for the firm orders of 'prohibited' aircraft to fly for Alaska would result in 32% fewer airframes (22% if discounting the 200s on 120 day contracts). Depending on what the Alaska rate is dropping Delta is a business option (not a good one option but still an option).
I'm against scope relaxation or bigger aircraft but Skyw has a much clearer path to quickly replace Delta than Delta could quickly replace skyw. Keyword there was quickly. I'm against all of this and don't think any of this will happen but the numbers do make it plausible. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2254317)
They can not do that. The contract they signed forbids it. ACA tried it and their code was terminated.
At that point if they attempted it they are a competitor to Delta and management would be in the fight on our side. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2254333)
Yes, it is the anti-competitor clause, however, what do you do with the gates Skywest owns in ATL. Skywest could lease them to American airlines.
If the alternative was to sit back and subsidize a megalomaniac rogue super jumbo RJ operator, they will find a way to pull the plug on them. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2254353)
As if AA is chomping at the bit for that? Nah. Not worried about it. Worst case DL loses all of the gates in question (highly unlikely that would happen) and could make up most of the capacity through upsizing and whoever wormed their way in would have to then slug it out in a two front war with DL and SWA who have found a highly symbiotic synergy.
If the alternative was to sit back and subsidize a megalomaniac rogue super jumbo RJ operator, they will find a way to pull the plug on them. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2254411)
True, but I think your management has different goals than the pilot group.
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
(Post 2254323)
Skywest dropping Delta (200/700/900/175) for the firm orders of 'prohibited' aircraft to fly for Alaska would result in 32% fewer airframes (22% if discounting the 200s on 120 day contracts). Depending on what the Alaska rate is dropping Delta is a business option (not a good one option but still an option).
I'm against scope relaxation or bigger aircraft but Skyw has a much clearer path to quickly replace Delta than Delta could quickly replace skyw. Keyword there was quickly. I'm against all of this and don't think any of this will happen but the numbers do make it plausible. |
This is the dumbest thread going. The MRJ options had stipulations on the jet meeting the current scope restrictions, if it doesn't meet them or they don't have a mainline partner that wants them on contract, then no obligation to convert the options to firm orders.
SKYW is not "stuck" with them, end-of-story. |
Originally Posted by WesternSkies
(Post 2254323)
Skywest dropping Delta (200/700/900/175) for the firm orders of 'prohibited' aircraft to fly for Alaska would result in 32% fewer airframes (22% if discounting the 200s on 120 day contracts). Depending on what the Alaska rate is dropping Delta is a business option (not a good one option but still an option).
I'm against scope relaxation or bigger aircraft but Skyw has a much clearer path to quickly replace Delta than Delta could quickly replace skyw. Keyword there was quickly. I'm against all of this and don't think any of this will happen but the numbers do make it plausible. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2254333)
Yes, it is the anti-competitor clause, however, what do you do with the gates Skywest owns in ATL. Skywest could lease them to American airlines.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2254571)
You might check on how gates are awarded in ATL. Skywest can quit using them but they go back to the airport to be reassigned.
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