Junior Lines & Base Assignments
#61
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 20
It really depends on a lot of variables. When I went in to indoc (May) we did the whole thing without the break. We bid for our first bases and were told we were going into either PIT, IND or LGA I think. So we bid those in the order we wanted them then added the rest in order.
Later, while still in class, a system bid came up for November and we bid with the entire FO group, seniority was deciding factor for base.
You can get a sense once you see the vacancies and you know your seniority but you have no way of knowing who above you is bidding what. I was senior in my class but didn't get my base as a vacancy award, I got it as a backfill from someone who left the base I wanted on that vacancy.
You also can put all the bases in order of desirability so you don't have an all or nothing bid, meaning, your bid can always be for IAH, then ORD as #2, IND as #3 etc.
I realize this creates anxiety at some level but, you have to understand you don't have a lot of control over your first base, we had a choice of three, you may get what you want or close to it on your first or second vacancy bid. You may have a better chance because you will have the benefit of extra time between your hire date and first base. There's too many variables to be sure.
The instructors will give you a lot of intel on commutability etc
Looks like the jr FO in IAH this month is a 02/06/18 hire
Guess I took too long to answer LOL...
Later, while still in class, a system bid came up for November and we bid with the entire FO group, seniority was deciding factor for base.
You can get a sense once you see the vacancies and you know your seniority but you have no way of knowing who above you is bidding what. I was senior in my class but didn't get my base as a vacancy award, I got it as a backfill from someone who left the base I wanted on that vacancy.
You also can put all the bases in order of desirability so you don't have an all or nothing bid, meaning, your bid can always be for IAH, then ORD as #2, IND as #3 etc.
I realize this creates anxiety at some level but, you have to understand you don't have a lot of control over your first base, we had a choice of three, you may get what you want or close to it on your first or second vacancy bid. You may have a better chance because you will have the benefit of extra time between your hire date and first base. There's too many variables to be sure.
The instructors will give you a lot of intel on commutability etc
Looks like the jr FO in IAH this month is a 02/06/18 hire
Guess I took too long to answer LOL...
Someone would have no life, but seems like you could make decent money not being used on reserve days, as indicated on other threads, and picking up trips from other pilots.
#62
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Position: ERJ-170
Posts: 521
You can pick up out of your base, so I'm told, haven't done it. However, there are other issues to consider; 117, can't work more than 6 in a row (including your reserve days), Rest period before the start of a reserve sequence, etc.
#63
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 40
It's not quite that easy once you upgrade. I've got a table of my own going to keep an eye on the trends for CA bases.
Least senior to most senior CA bases and the span of the bottom 10 DOHs...
EWR: 12/15 to 9/15
LGA: 12/15 to 6/15
PIT: 7/15 to 6/14
DCA: 4/15 to 10/14
CMH: 3/15 to 9/14
MIA: 3/15 to 3/13
PHL: 12/14 to 9/13
IND: 10/14 to 1/14
MCI: 5/14 to 3/11
IAH: 11/13 to 3/07
ORD: 11/13 to 6/07
Least senior to most senior CA bases and the span of the bottom 10 DOHs...
EWR: 12/15 to 9/15
LGA: 12/15 to 6/15
PIT: 7/15 to 6/14
DCA: 4/15 to 10/14
CMH: 3/15 to 9/14
MIA: 3/15 to 3/13
PHL: 12/14 to 9/13
IND: 10/14 to 1/14
MCI: 5/14 to 3/11
IAH: 11/13 to 3/07
ORD: 11/13 to 6/07
#64
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Joined APC: May 2018
Position: E170
Posts: 152
Here are the changes for captains. In another week or so I'll be able to compile November data. Again, this is the span of the bottom 10 dates of hire in each domicile, and the changes from last month's...
EWR: 1/16 to 11/15 (1 to 2 months more junior)
LGA: 1/16 to 6/15 (1 month more junior)
PIT: 10/15 to 7/14 (3 months more junior)
DCA: 4/15 to 7/14 (3 months more senior on top end)
CMH: 7/15 to 1/15 (4 months more junior)
MIA: 3/15 to 2/13 (1 month more senior on top end)
PHL: 10/15 to 2/13 (10 months more junior and 7 months more senior on top end)
IND: 10/14 to 11/13 (2 months more senior on top end)
MCI: 8/14 to 9/12 (3 to 6 months more junior)
IAH: 1/14 to 2/07 (2 months more junior and 1 month more senior on top end)
ORD: 1/13 to 5/07 (10 to 11 months more senior)
EWR: 1/16 to 11/15 (1 to 2 months more junior)
LGA: 1/16 to 6/15 (1 month more junior)
PIT: 10/15 to 7/14 (3 months more junior)
DCA: 4/15 to 7/14 (3 months more senior on top end)
CMH: 7/15 to 1/15 (4 months more junior)
MIA: 3/15 to 2/13 (1 month more senior on top end)
PHL: 10/15 to 2/13 (10 months more junior and 7 months more senior on top end)
IND: 10/14 to 11/13 (2 months more senior on top end)
MCI: 8/14 to 9/12 (3 to 6 months more junior)
IAH: 1/14 to 2/07 (2 months more junior and 1 month more senior on top end)
ORD: 1/13 to 5/07 (10 to 11 months more senior)
#66
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,099
The base bid processes every month, so you can bid every month if you so choose. Keep in mind you are bidding for a base change 4 months ahead, so it takes some planning. For example, the November base change bid will be for base assignments starting in March 19. So if you get awarded your base with the November bid, you will be at your current base until March 2019 when you will bid in your new base.
It lets you have standing bids in, so if you want to move to a different base it will bid for you every month until a space opens up.
It lets you have standing bids in, so if you want to move to a different base it will bid for you every month until a space opens up.
#67
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Position: Embraer 170/175 First Officer
Posts: 62
Happy thanksgiving everyone. For prospective new hires wondering about reserve times. The following is junior line holders for December
CMH-5/30/18
DCA-1/23/18
EWR-1/4/18
IAH-6/20/17
IND-5/30/18
LGA-5/15/18
MCI-4/17/18
MIA-6/20/17
ORD-1/23/18
PHL-2/20/18
PIT-5/1/18
Now for composite lines (part reserve, part line usually with Military days off or single days off)
CMH-5/30/18
DCA-5/1/18 most junior 6/25/18 MIL guy
EWR-2/20/18
IAH-10/30/17 MIL
IND-7/10/18 MIL
LGA-6/12/18 with single days off 8/21/18 most junior
MCI- 5/30/18
MIA-8/22/17
ORD-3/20/18
PHL- 3/20/18 MIL
PIT-6/25/18
CMH-5/30/18
DCA-1/23/18
EWR-1/4/18
IAH-6/20/17
IND-5/30/18
LGA-5/15/18
MCI-4/17/18
MIA-6/20/17
ORD-1/23/18
PHL-2/20/18
PIT-5/1/18
Now for composite lines (part reserve, part line usually with Military days off or single days off)
CMH-5/30/18
DCA-5/1/18 most junior 6/25/18 MIL guy
EWR-2/20/18
IAH-10/30/17 MIL
IND-7/10/18 MIL
LGA-6/12/18 with single days off 8/21/18 most junior
MCI- 5/30/18
MIA-8/22/17
ORD-3/20/18
PHL- 3/20/18 MIL
PIT-6/25/18
#68
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 44
Ok, just read this whole thread... I'm starting indoc next Tuesday (12/11), and if I'm understanding correctly, I should probably abandon the idea that I might get assigned to ORD...? Training will be delayed until March it sounds like, so maybe during that time I can get it. If not, I guess I need to be looking at IND or PIT. Probably have to go with PIT, because I need commutability from BNA.
#69
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: SnackBsktRaider
Posts: 233
Ok, just read this whole thread... I'm starting indoc next Tuesday (12/11), and if I'm understanding correctly, I should probably abandon the idea that I might get assigned to ORD...? Training will be delayed until March it sounds like, so maybe during that time I can get it. If not, I guess I need to be looking at IND or PIT. Probably have to go with PIT, because I need commutability from BNA.
#70
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 44
You could also consider an NY base if you’re thinking strictly for single leg commutability. PIT would be good but the only option are the 2 Southwest flights offered per day (at least during the week). You’ll already be commuting time zones if you do PIT. By doing EWR or LGA you’ll have way more commuting options. Both DL and AA to LGA....SW and United to EWR.
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