TJBrass

" Nearly 300 students from all over the United States train in Indianapolis with LIFT and its curriculum designated for airline training". (Businesswire)
BB just open a second campus as well. Sign his agreement or don't, the Rev probably doesn't care one way or the other.

Njflyguy

If this agreement is enforceable, we're going to be talking about this in a year or so about pilots who are on the hook for $100K plus attorney fees because they didn't think the contract they signed was legit. I rescinded my Republic Application on airlineapps as soon as this news hit.

Cujo665

There is a difference between what is legal and what they will use to drive you bankrupt fighting them.
It's pretty clear that it says competes against Republic on those routes. The only other airlines that compete against republic on any route are other regionals. Heck, it's not even Republic's route, it's the mainlines route. Republic doesn't sell tickets to even compete for the public to begin with. They compete against other regionals for CPA agreements from mainlines to fly where ever they are told. Not on any specific route.

Seriously; read their own definition in the agreement of what competing means. If you take it verbatim, the only airlines competing are other regionals.

That said. I would not want to be the test case on such a loosely worded agreement.

Njflyguy

I guess my app made it to a recruiter before I rescinded it in airlineapps. I was given an option to schedule a phoner. As this is my first regional interview, though I realize very cursory, I am going to take the interview for the experience and ask lots of questions about the contract. If they were to completely remove the $100K penalty clause (section III), I would be fine with the other penalties ($15K per 6 months upon making CA). I can't fathom taking a deal where they can come after me for $100K if I leave for *ANY* reason, including them dropping me for performance issues or me losing my medical for an unforeseen, uncontrollable reason.

Obviously, they won't tailor the contract to each new hire so I'm more looking to get his comments/description of the new hire contract. Stay tuned.

Reader

Hey, what better way to get your feet wet and move past the interview jitters than starting with one that you don’t really care about? Getting some reps in will just make you that much better at interviews 👍

onetogo

Does any of this impact direct entry captains?

If so, please describe.

XerxestheFalcon

As well there is a new version of it as of the 26th apparently and it looks a little different but definitely not good still

Njflyguy

New version of the contract published on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comm...ised_from_the/

Summary:

Inventive payments revised to $100K payable as follows:
$25,000 paid upon completion of First Officer training and IOE
$50,000 paid upon completion of Captain upgrade training and IOE
$25,000 paid upon completion of 12 months as Captain in active status


Clawbacks:
If pilot leaves before 2 full years as Captain or 5 full years as pilot, they can request payback of incentives up to what you had been paid at time of seperation.

Separation from the company is now more narrowly defined as "resigns their employment or is terminated by Republic in accordance with the CBA" rather than the prior contract that broadly defined it as basically any reason at all. This basically means if you voluntarily leave, or the union can't save your job, then you'll owe back what they paid you.


Liquidated damages:
The contract is predicated on a pilot serving a full 2 years as Captain, no matter how long it takes to get to Captain. If you don't make Captain (or get there later), they expect you to fly for 5 years in total. The damages are broken down as follows:

if the Pilot Candidate separates from
employment with Republic (i.e., resigns their employment or is terminated by
Republic in accordance with the CBA) prior to completing at least two (2) years in
active status as a Captain for Republic, or, in the alternative, at least five (5) years in
active status as a pilot for Republic, then the Pilot Candidate agrees to pay liquidated
damages in accordance with the following scale:

1. Separation before completing four (4) years in active status and has not upgraded to Captain at Republic = $100,000
2. Separation after completing four (4) years but less than five (5) years in active status and has not upgraded to Captain at Republic = $75,000
3. Separation before completing five (5) years in active status and has been a Captain at Republic for less than one (1) year = $75,000
4. Separation after completing one (1) year but less than eighteen (18) months in active status as a Captain and has been a pilot at Republic for less than five (5)years in active status = $50,000
5. Separation after completing eighteen (18) months but less than two (2) years inactive status as a Captain and has been a pilot at Republic for less than five (5)years in active status = $25.000
6. Separation on or after five (5) years in active status or after completing two (2) years in active status as a Captain at Republic = $0

So, bottom line...get hired as FO and pass training and IOE, you get $25K. Get to CA as soon as you can and collect another $50K, followed by $25K 12 months later. You're a free agent after 24 months as CA.

Better but not really so great. Incentives are definitely there to get to Captain and even just complete FO training and IOE ($25K). If you are unable to fly for medical reasons, you won't be penalized since you'll be inactive, but your 2 year CA clock is based on active status. If you are fully disabled to not be able to ever fly again, then you're not subject to the penalties.

I am wondering if the union had any input on this or RPA was just responding to the immediate PR firestorm that came a month ago when they released the first draft.

Plabelover

Just the right amount of motivation I needed to get through my flight training lol!

Justabusdriver1

I think this fixes a lot of the push back from punishing those who left. But honestly this at best matches other airline current offerings. 100k in bonus. If you leave you repay up to the amount given. If you invest the bonus and hold on to it. After a year or two get the chance to get to a major it ain’t a difficult choice to jump ship and give up 50k in bonuses (which you still have to stay another 2 years to be relived from). Hell as a second year Fo at a major you’re making just as much as a CA at a regional. This just puts them back at square one. Are they even offering this to current fos to upgrade?