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Old 07-16-2012 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
To your last point, if your only leverage is based upon the destruction of my Airline you can go "f" yourself.
I'm starting to question exactly what substance you have between your ears, cause it ain't brains. You, Zooropa, do not have an "airline"...you are an employee of RAH assigned to the F9 certificate...no different then the guys assigned to the S5 certificate. Your group assigned the the F9 certificate are not special and deserving of any handouts at the expense of any other pilot at RAH. However, your group of pilots have been bleeding and siphoning (through alleged backroom deals of which the RLA protects) money and resources from RAH as a whole, which in turn limits all the other pilots ability to bargain for a better contract.

You are blind to reality in order to get away with your acts. It is your group which has harmed the operation and could lead to this "destruction" you speak of.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sticky
I'm starting to question exactly what substance you have between your ears, cause it ain't brains. You, Zooropa, do not have an "airline"...you are an employee of RAH assigned to the F9 certificate...no different then the guys assigned to the S5 certificate. Your group assigned the the F9 certificate are not special and deserving of any handouts at the expense of any other pilot at RAH. However, your group of pilots have been bleeding and siphoning (through alleged backroom deals of which the RLA protects) money and resources from RAH as a whole, which in turn limits all the other pilots ability to bargain for a better contract.

You are blind to reality in order to get away with your acts. It is your group which has harmed the operation and could lead to this "destruction" you speak of.
They are most definitely different than the guys assigned to the S5 certificate. They are under a completely different CBA. As far as I know, not one single pre-merger Republic pilot has transferred to the F9 side with his seniority in tact. They are operated as two separate entities...for now.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
They are most definitely different than the guys assigned to the S5 certificate. They are under a completely different CBA. As far as I know, not one single pre-merger Republic pilot has transferred to the F9 side with his seniority in tact. They are operated as two separate entities...for now.
....so what? They are still employees of airlines whole-owned by RAH and one union governed by the RLA. RW has a DEN base, but S5 does not...does that make them different?

There will be transfers to the F9 certificate while retaining IMSL seniority (rightfully so) soon enough...just need some vacancies.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 02:45 PM
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Two questions.

1) When RAH purchased Frontier and Lynx, they said that a fleet of 12 Q400’s was too small to keep in service and operate profitably.

Now we have 15 E-190’s, if we lose 3 or more of those 15 E-190’s, will RAH decide to shutdown the 190 line?

2) If we get the raises we deserve and/or want, there has been speculation that RAH may take all of the company or a portion of the company into bankruptcy. The obvious choice between the three certificates is CHQ.

Our contract is between RAH and CHQ. If CHQ goes away will S5 or YX (RP) still have a contract with RAH?



In other news, the Judge dismissed the lawsuit regarding “rahcontractnow” by RAH against the IBT. Apparently, the company cannot claim harm while stipulating there is no harm and continue with the lawsuit. (That’s not a direct quote from anyone)

Now the senior guys are telling the junior guys to just suck it up, life as a captain isn’t any better than that of a junior FO. Even the EBoard VP of 357 stated to a disgruntled FO, “The world does need ditch diggers too.”

Guess we’re going to see what the future holds for us as the company’s response to the NMB is due tomorrow. Maybe we’ll be released by Wednesday. Fun times…..
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Old 07-16-2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 3662forlife
Now the senior guys are telling the junior guys to just suck it up, life as a captain isn’t any better than that of a junior FO. Even the EBoard VP of 357 stated to a disgruntled FO, “The world does need ditch diggers too.”
I shouldn't even respond to you however I cannot let this go. Your blatant attemp at spin is laughable. That is a line from the movie Caddyshack. It was a JOKE! Just the fact that you are trying to spin this to make our guys look bad is more proof that you do not have the best interest of your fellow pilots at heart.

You may have a future in politics.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sticky
....so what? They are still employees of airlines whole-owned by RAH and one union governed by the RLA. RW has a DEN base, but S5 does not...does that make them different?

There will be transfers to the F9 certificate while retaining IMSL seniority (rightfully so) soon enough...just need some vacancies.
So what? The Frontier first officers make more than the captains on the other certificates. Without a single contract, the IMSL means nothing. See US Airways for an example. You guys really do want to take the Frontier Airbus seats, huh? I don't blame you. The pay disparity is huge. Just don't tell the Frontier pilots you don't want their seats. Your actions speak for themselves.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
So what? The Frontier first officers make more than the captains on the other certificates. Without a single contract, the IMSL means nothing. See US Airways for an example. You guys really do want to take the Frontier Airbus seats, huh? I don't blame you. The pay disparity is huge. Just don't tell the Frontier pilots you don't want their seats. Your actions speak for themselves.
What does hourly pay have to do with anything? The same thing could be said about Southwest and AirTran.

You think without a single contract, an IMSL means nothing?...that alone shows how little understanding you have. Does your Frontier pilot dad know youre on his computer?
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:46 PM
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and as soon as the native republic contract is finalized the IBT will begin the process of amalgamating the two contracts. that is why only 4 sections are being negotiatied
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Old 07-16-2012 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
and as soon as the native republic contract is finalized the IBT will begin the process of amalgamating the two contracts. that is why only 4 sections are being negotiatied
Ugh I hope we sell them before this ever has to happen.
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Old 07-16-2012 | 05:59 PM
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